Is Ted Cruz a Charlatan?

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  • BugI02

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    And The Ted Cruz Goldman Sachs Loan, Explained : NPR

    1. Cruz had a legal obligation to disclose the loans
    There are two disclosure requirements. He complied with one, reporting both the Goldman Sachs and Citibank deals in his personal financial reports as a candidate and newly elected senator. The campaign paid zero interest, the documents say.
    The personal financial disclosures also report Cruz's no-interest loans to the campaign. There's no connection made between the two sets of transactions. The disclosures also don't show any sell-off of the couple's financial investments.
    Cruz's Senate campaign reported to the Federal Election Commission that Cruz made the loans; there's no mention of Goldman or Citi. This appears to be contrary to election law, which requires a candidate not only to report the amount, interest rate, terms and date but also to file the actual loan documents. That last is to thwart secret sweetheart deals.


    Candidates often take out second mortgages on their homes, which appear in FEC filings as bank loans to the candidate to benefit the campaign. The Cruz Senate campaign didn't do this with the Goldman and Citi deals; it just reported personal loans from Cruz. The two scenarios may not be exactly parallel — or they could conceal problems.


    Take joint ownership. Larry Noble, a former general counsel at the FEC, said that beyond the residence, a candidate usually cannot borrow against more than 50 percent of jointly owned assets. The spouse is restrained by the contribution limits; for Heidi Cruz in 2012, that would have been $5,000 total for the primary and general elections.


     

    Tombs

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    Which is why I think some of these people are better than that. If the story were turned around, and it was about Trump... they would be yelling about how unreliable the source is, how it's just cheap political games, etc.

    Rather see everyone step back and take an objective look at it, and give it the attention it deserves: None.

    If it ends up having a shred of truth to it, or becoming 100% true... then by all means, we can talk about it then.

    No, no we wouldn't. Trump produces a set of expectations and far more often than not, he doesn't misrepresent his character.

    Meanwhile, Ted plays up this fake image he's created for himself, so when he does something screwy like that, it's actually a serious issue.

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    Lets keep parroting how nothing is going on in the Cruz camp and how everything is fine and that he'd never do anything like this.
     
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    T.Lex

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    No, no we wouldn't. Trump produces a set of expectations and far more often than not, he doesn't misrepresent his character.

    Meanwhile, Ted plays up this fake image he's created for himself, so when he does something screwy like that, it's actually a serious issue.

    Lets keep parroting how nothing is going on in the Cruz camp and how everything is fine and that he'd never do anything like this.

    Have you considered, that may be an April 1 joke? I'm seriously not sure how serious you are taking it.
     

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    Aaron1776 I had already believed Cruz to be a liar and you just solidified my thoughts! So I will say that my vote goes to Donald Trump. I believe he can and will make America great again!
     

    AmmoManAaron

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    Haven't looked at community property because I'm more interested in this:

    Lyin? Ted Cruz Campaign Refuses To Give FEC Details of Campaign Loans From Goldman Sachs? | The Last Refuge

    "The “accidental omission” is not necessarily the problem. The irreconcilable consequences from an accurate filing are the larger issue."


    "They can correct the missing information and file amended reports. However, if the Cruz campaign corrects the record based on the explanations to the media, the amended reports will reflect their violations of federal campaign finance laws."



    "A candidate CANNOT take out an unsecured signature loan for their campaign. Also, while the legalese can quickly get a person into the weeds, essentially a candidate’s spouse is similarly limited in contribution amount to the same principles as an unrelated campaign donor."


    "If a candidate could take out an unsecured signature loan, it opens the door wide open to corrupt exploitation by external influence."


    The Goldman loan was collateralized by a brokerage account. The Citi loan was unsecured (ruh roh)


    "In essence the Ted Cruz campaign is saying they’ll go through the enforcement mechanism of the FEC instead of the compliance division. By going through the “enforcement division” (takes over a year) they can delay any damaging information from discovery until after the 2016 Presidential Election."


    Nothing to see here

    Frankly, given the level of shenanigans that go on in political campaigns, I really don't care if he violated some arcane campaign finance law. I think most people break the law by speeding or fudging their taxes and that is the same level that I view this on - meaningless in the greater scheme of things. I'm voting for Cruz because I trust him on gun rights and shrinking gov't.
     

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    But does the mainstream media advance a story that would undoubtedly increase Trumps odds of winning the nomination?

    What makes anyone think the MSM doesn't want Trump to get the nomination. They don't want him or any other Republican to be President, but I'm pretty sure they see Trump as nominee as a path to making that happen.
     

    AtTheMurph

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    What makes anyone think the MSM doesn't want Trump to get the nomination. They don't want him or any other Republican to be President, but I'm pretty sure they see Trump as nominee as a path to making that happen.

    You need only listen to the number and range of those opposed to a Trump presidency to understand that he is a true outsider.

    We know the Dems don't like him.
    We know the MSM doesn't like him.
    We know that an increasing number of socialist governments across the globe don't want him.
    We know that foreign media doesn't want him.
    We know that the government itself doesn't want him, unless you are in the border agents union.

    we can keep adding them as time goes on....
     

    Thor

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    We know he'll issue illegal orders to the military and expect them to be followed.
    We know he loves him some eminent domain to use the power of .gov to make him rich.
    We know he donates to liberals and liberal causes and says liberal things until he wants the R nomination.
    We know he admittedly practices crony capitalism so he's the guy we want to stop it?
    We know he'll say ANYTHING to anyone to get what he wants and then feels no need to follow through.

    we can keep adding them as time goes on...
     

    Tombs

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    Have you considered, that may be an April 1 joke? I'm seriously not sure how serious you are taking it.

    You're smart enough to know better than this. YES THE FAKE TATTOO IS AN APRIL FOOLS JOKE.

    It's the fact that they BOTH do it on the same day, referring to each other, that causes it to be eyebrow raising.
     

    BugI02

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    Frankly, given the level of shenanigans that go on in political campaigns, I really don't care if he violated some arcane campaign finance law. I think most people break the law by speeding or fudging their taxes and that is the same level that I view this on - meaningless in the greater scheme of things. I'm voting for Cruz because I trust him on gun rights and shrinking gov't.

    As is absolutely your right. Those of us who support Trump merely want the same consideration
     

    AA&E

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    What makes anyone think the MSM doesn't want Trump to get the nomination. They don't want him or any other Republican to be President, but I'm pretty sure they see Trump as nominee as a path to making that happen.

    The conservative math confuses me. A candidate that doesn't have popular support (like Cruz or Kasich) during the primary somehow has a better chance of defeating the eventual democratic candidate... nobody wants to admit it, but there are blue collar democrats that find their party no longer directed toward their goals (doesn't that sound familiar?)... some of these people will cross over and vote for a Trump candidate much like they did for Reagan.
     

    Tombs

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    The conservative math confuses me. A candidate that doesn't have popular support (like Cruz or Kasich) during the primary somehow has a better chance of defeating the eventual democratic candidate... nobody wants to admit it, but there are blue collar democrats that find their party no longer directed toward their goals (doesn't that sound familiar?)... some of these people will cross over and vote for a Trump candidate much like they did for Reagan.

    Leave facts out of it, this is INGO.
     
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