Is the group more important than the individual?

[BugI02]

The theorem doesn’t apply. In this case there are just two choices. Open it up or not.

So what’s the rational choice here?

I disagree. The theory postulates that even in that case you will not be able to achieve a consensus on which is better or worse. Because you noticed that people come to different conclusions based on the same data is why I posted it, it's a bit esoteric otherwise. If Mr Arrow is right, that disagreement, given the same inputs, is pretty much hard-wired. The work has been around since 1972 and I'm unaware of any meaningful dissent to the theory.

 

[nonobaddog]

I disagree. The theory postulates that even in that case you will not be able to achieve a consensus on which is better or worse. Because you noticed that people come to different conclusions based on the same data is why I posted it, it's a bit esoteric otherwise. If Mr Arrow is right, that disagreement, given the same inputs, is pretty much hard-wired. The work has been around since 1972 and I'm unaware of any meaningful dissent to the theory.

I dissent with the theory - just because the theory says somebody has to.

 

[jamil]

I disagree. The theory postulates that even in that case you will not be able to achieve a consensus on which is better or worse. Because you noticed that people come to different conclusions based on the same data is why I posted it, it's a bit esoteric otherwise. If Mr Arrow is right, that disagreement, given the same inputs, is pretty much hard-wired. The work has been around since 1972 and I'm unaware of any meaningful dissent to the theory.

It specifically states 3 or choices.

 

[jamil]

I dissent with the theory - just because the theory says somebody has to.

I think there are some things it gets right and some things it gets wrong. Practically speaking group decisions, when the group has the same goal, can make rational decisions. I see that every day at work. But, when it comes to political decisions, where there are many different goals and motives, the theory tends to act true.

 

[jamil]

The irrational choice was made to shut down everything in order to show us who is boss.

In November maybe they will learn the truth, but not likely.

Is that really true? What makes you so certain that the only reason for this decision is to show everyone who is boss? Is Trump showing us who is boss?

 

[2A_Tom]

Trump didn't shut down anything, his was a sin of omission.