Is there anyone here that ISN'T an AR-15 fan?

[indyk]

AR

I don't think i will ever get an AR unless i get a great deal on one.

They are fun to shoot just to expensive for my budgie. Im also not a big on the cost of 223.
Although, I would want to find one with an upper that could shoot 5.56 Russian

 

[jeremy]

5.56 Russian

Huh...

I am confused never heard of that Caliber...

 

[boozoo]

I decided to go the route rarely traveled and built a vz58 from a parts kit.

Vz. 58 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Someday maybe I will build an AR, but first I will get another vz58. I will probably buy one from Czechpoint, kits and receivers are too expensive to be worth it right now.

About how much is it costing you to go this route on the 58?

Can you pass me some links to sniff out? (PM is fine if you don't want to hijack the thread).


In keeping with the original thread theme, I guess I'm not a huge AR fan either, but I can't say it's for technical reasons. I just like older weapons since I'm a big history nerd.

I think the only "new" rifle I've ever bought was the Saiga 308 that's in the midst of a "Saiganov" conversion. Not sure if that puts me in the "AK" camp or not.

 

[Jack Ryan]

I am just curious, everyone here seems to be AR-15 fans, I have owned half a dozen over the years(Colt, Bushmaster, RRA and a few put togethers) and they just never did much for me...I'm more of an FAL/HK G3 kinda guy. Am I all alone? Just fishin for opinions, TY

I'm not much impressed with them.

 

[Cemetery-man]

Yep. Big AR fan here. Only rifle I take out and display every night next to the computer. Just can't take my eyes off of it! Much better looking than my wife.

 

[38special]

*shrug*

I've never been a fan of the .223, and I'll not likely ever take a 600 yard shot.

They look cool, and people like em. That's fine. I got my "AR Fix" with a Smith 15-22. I get to tacticool it and shoot cheap.

Otherwise, My SKS's and AK I like!

 

[shibumiseeker]

I am a latecomer to the AR world. I only got my first one three years ago in spite of being a rifleman for two decades now. I've never been a huge fan of the .223 round, tending to be a bit of a bigger caliber fan (.308, 10mm, .45acp, .50bmg, etc), but I have to admit, the AR15 is a fun rifle and a decent platform. Legos for adults as some say. The fact that they have such a high degree of parts availability and interchangeability make me like them even more. It's the rifle that sits next to the bed with light and HWS, and my go-to gun for varmit control.


I don't really consider the AR15 and the AK/SKS to be comparable. I like the SKS as an inexpensive beater rifle (the best was when you could get them for under a hundred), but I see them as two very different platforms with two somewhat different uses.

 

[sig1473]

AR= Aren't Really great!

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Huge fan of ARs. Have chambering in 22LR, .223, 5.45x39, 6.8, 7.62x39, .308, .410, .458 SOCOM, 50 BMG.

 

[ol' trucker]

Some of you guys are funny

I own an ar15 and don't really like them all that much, 223 is a joke

I will be building or buying another FAL in the near future, much better rifle in my opinion

.223 is a joke. I guess unless you get hit with one.

 

[Noble Sniper]

I apoligize becasue I am new but I have never owned one and probably never will. Have shot and worked on mny of them........just never did anything for me personally. Though they are a good firearm

 

[bigcraig]

This thread has been extremely informative.

 

[TopDog]

This is not making sense to me. Before you said you choose the AR in 223 because it wont over penetrate. If as you said before penetration is the concern then a shotgun, handgun will both penetrate less than a .223 I'm not sure what your point is. I'm not going to use a AR or AK for home defense unless the crap really hits the oscillating air current distribution device. In that case I resort to high powered rifles then I'm not concerned with over penetration. Still toting the AK over the AR.

Catch the episode on Defense TV. They demonstrated that the 9mm and 45acp both penetrated more walls than the .223. I believe this to be accurate as they seem like they know what they are doing. I was suprised myself at the results but those were the result. The 9mm was the worst going through 4 walls.

Thanks for the information. I would have thought that out of any two bullets comparatively the same in design a bullet traveling twice as fast would penetrate more. After doing research I see you are correct about the penetration of the .223, it penetrates less than 9mm and .45 ACP.

Here is a good article in support by Massad Ayoob on "Selecting Home Defense Ammunition" I stand corrected.

Selecting Home Defense Ammunition | American Handgunner | Find Articles at BNET

 

[H.T.]

As a vet I can say that I am not a bit intrested in ever owning any US military Matel piece of junk or cicvilaian copy of one. I'll take a FAL, L1A1,G3,Galil,Ak, M1 Garand,M14or an M1 Carbine..Given the choice between a M4 or a Kar98.. I'll take the Kar98.
God Bless

 

[GC Dude]

I'm not an AR fan.
I like my AK and Marlin 795. I have my Polish Tokarev for home defense.

 

[38special]

I wouldn't want to be shot with a .380 or .25ACP either, but I don't care for the calibers.

 

[Win52C]

Wow, never expected this much response thanks all...

 

[loony1]

Huh...

I am confused never heard of that Caliber...

i would like to hear the answer too???
anyway, i love the ar, and all you hater's can take your ak's 300 yds in front of me and my fellow ar'rs, and i will yell, "fire", just keep shootin boys, you will see what i mean

 

[loony1]

Wow, never expected this much response thanks all...

you are welcome, since i have at least taken up 1 damn page....

 

[gtmerkley]

I for one Would love to get an ACR Just becouse its not an ar15 type firearm + ITS MADE BUY BUSHMASTER ant I like the 1/9 inch twist over the 1/7.
I just never could stand a ar15 even thow we have many in the house,all bushmaster.