The Ops story and frequently visiting Seattle and seeing their homeless with Mental/drug induced unpredictable moves as well as the aggressive panhandling they all do is why I carry POM with my light and handgun. I’m in a lot more situations like that where physical force (reasonable force) can be justified but a firearm using deadly force not so much!
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It almost turned south real fast.
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There should be something between a harsh word and a gun.
In addition to the names already mentioned by Coserman (whom I believe I took the Paladin Combatives class with in Avon), another of their buddies, Chuck Haggard, is another. He's basically a pepper spray SME (And another founding member of the Shivworks Collective).
BUT - finding actual bona-fide MUC and MUC-type classes isn't super easy around here. Unfortunately.
@ECS686 do you have any contacts that do MUC stuff?
In addition to the names already mentioned by Coserman (whom I believe I took the Paladin Combatives class with in Avon), another of their buddies, Chuck Haggard, is another. He's basically a pepper spray SME (And another founding member of the Shivworks Collective).
BUT - finding actual bona-fide MUC and MUC-type classes isn't super easy around here. Unfortunately.
@ECS686 do you have any contacts that do MUC stuff?
From what I understand, Craig Douglas is one of the first to really put a curriculum together around this and other trainers have picked it up. I could be wrong.
I took a Managing Confrontations class at Parabellum several years back that I think @cedartop led along with another fella (Sorry, can't remember his name).
Lots of INGOers there for that one as I recall. @Jackson, Indygunguy (RIP) and his wife, a few more.
Ahem...
Haggard was in the Bolke class I hosted and I talked to him about coming here for a class. He was very much for it. So I am in the works of trying to schedule him along with some others next year.
That’s all I can say as of now as it’s tentative.
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I am the lucky one that gets to chase the homeless off our parking lot. Usually in the morning before they are too drugged up but some are just bat***t crazy too. Multilayered approach:
Of course the morons in charge say it's against policy to have a firearm yet they are all pu****s and too afraid to deal with the problem(s). I ignore the policy and take Sonny's approach when he tells Clemenza... "I don't want my brother coming out of that toilet with just his d*** in his hands, alright?"
- prepare ahead of time with all my tools
- authoritative stance and voice commands
- maintain my distance
- record video with my phone in my non-dominant hand
- often time this is what scares them off fastest as they tell me "you can't take my picture, that's illegal"
- POM pepper spray in dominant hand
- ready to drop the pepper spray if I need some lead spray
Of course the morons in charge say it's against policy to have a firearm yet they are all pu****s and too afraid to deal with the problem(s). I ignore the policy and take Sonny's approach when he tells Clemenza... "I don't want my brother coming out of that toilet with just his d*** in his hands, alright?"
You understand correctly. Not to say others may not have taught parts of this before Craig but he codified and popularized it and I dare say anybody teaching something similar today owes part of it to him. We used his MUC information with his permission. By we I mean myself and my partner Josh.
So many INGO people came through our classes and I am very grateful for that. Those who you mention and who have chimed in plus so many more. Aron (Coach) and his daughter, Chezuki, Evan Rice, Chris, Rhino, and so many more. I hate to start naming names because I can't possible remember everyone but I really appreciate the support we had from the INGO community.
That is a scary thought.Chezuki is Coach's daughter! Who knew?
Pretty sure I used the commas correctly though.
How do you use commas in a list of names?
When you have a list of nouns in a sentence, you should put a comma after each noun except the last one, and sometimes the second to last one, with a space after each comma but not before.
How many women and young ladies has Biden nibbled on? LOL
How many kids do you have? Have you ever had to calm someone down who is seriously injured and help is still far away....
sure they do...i call it crakhed philosophy.
makes no sense to anyone...not even themselves
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