Keller's Mason, Tx. Store CHL radio ad

[Que]

To carry off his own property, yes. But it's not required that someone take the class from that person.

Still and all, if the instructor agreed to teach it to all who came for it, he cannot fault the law for holding him to his agreement.

If he's willing to give up his certification to teach the class, however, I don't see that there's much else they can do to him.

Agreed! And nothing should be done to him.

In the meantime, while he is still licensed to teach the class, I wonder how he determines if a prospective attendee meets his requirements? Does he ask everyone if they voted for Obama and if they are Muslim or just those who fit the stereotype? I did not see where this was discussed, but I'm sure he would have no issues with that in the first place.

Most likely he was simply playing to his preferred audience to increase business. Now, Muslims and those who voted for Obama know they are not welcome. They will avoid his class, even if it were the only one that fit their schedule. His reputation will precede him and he will meet his goal of keeping certain individuals out. He can recant his statement and they say, "Hey, I welcome everyone and will be just as courteous to them as they are to me." I'm sure this could work in his favor. He may lose a few supporters, but for the most part all will be well.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Update. He may not be allowed to continue teaching classes.

Crockett Keller, Texas Gun Safety Instructor, Refuses To Teach Liberals And Muslims

 

[Squirt239]

I'd be very careful and tread lightly. Last time I read the FAQ's, religion is not supposed to be mentioned on this site. Just sayin'.....

 

[JetGirl]

He's aware he may lose his certification, and he's OK with it. He's not infringing on anyone else and he PAID for the ad. It's his right, and his property. Don't like it? Don't take a class from him. Like it? Take the class or send business to him.
Vote with your dollars.
I don't see the problem.

 

[pinshooter45]

have you all seen this?

Crocket Keller from Texas won't train Obama votores or Muslims.
Crockett Keller Bans Muslims and Obama Supporters From Gun Training in Radio Ad [Video]

 

[Que]

Update. He may not be allowed to continue teaching classes.

Crockett Keller, Texas Gun Safety Instructor, Refuses To Teach Liberals And Muslims

I'm glad he has the right to lose his license.

 

[Bushido Devil Dog]

FTFY...

Nothing wrong with that ad until Mr. Keller got stuck on Stupid

...which is bad news for Mr. Keller, because the Doctor says...

 

[LFD102]

He's aware he may lose his certification, and he's OK with it. He's not infringing on anyone else and he PAID for the ad. It's his right, and his property. Don't like it? Don't take a class from him. Like it? Take the class or send business to him.
Vote with your dollars.
I don't see the problem.

As much as I agree that he has the right to place that add, This is America and we do have that freedom, BUT I don't have to agree with him or like what he said. Which I DON'T so I'll just ignore him Like I always say stoopid people is job security for me so I have to love them

 

[TomN]

Wow. Just, wow.

 

[JetGirl]

As much as I agree that he has the right to place that add, This is America and we do have that freedom, BUT I don't have to agree with him or like what he said. Which I DON'T so I'll just ignore him Like I always say stoopid people is job security for me so I have to love them

I'll stand up for his right to air an ad he paid for. Just as I'll stand up for your right to ignore it.

 

[Leo]

THe instructors for the Texas State CHL are not employees of the state, are not paid by the State, are not insured by the State etc. In Fact, they have to pay the State to be certified. They are independent contractors hired by the Students. When I was Contracting, I turned down a job where a telemarketing firm was putting in a new call center with about 500 phones. I was licensed and certified by the City of Chicago and AT&T. I said no way. The customer just had to find another contractor.

 

[rcam1977]

Crocker Keller

i think he should run for president, hes got my vote

 

[Que]

i think he should run for president, hes got my vote

President of what?

The guy has the right to say as he wishes and do as he pleases to some degree, but IMO he's definitely a class A idiot.

 

[Que]

president of the USA,

Oh, cool. Write him in. That is certainly your right.

 

[Walt_Jabsco]

THe instructors for the Texas State CHL are not employees of the state, are not paid by the State, are not insured by the State etc. In Fact, they have to pay the State to be certified. They are independent contractors hired by the Students. When I was Contracting, I turned down a job where a telemarketing firm was putting in a new call center with about 500 phones. I was licensed and certified by the City of Chicago and AT&T. I said no way. The customer just had to find another contractor.

While he is a contractor, he is certified by the state and must therefore meet certain requirements. There's certainly a non-discrimination clause in those requirements.

By discriminating against customers based on race or political affiliation, he's put his certification in jeopardy. If the state rescinds his certification, they're entirely in the right, legally speaking, and I'd argue morally as well.

Discrimination based on race, creed or political affiliation is absolutely unacceptable in modern society, particularly in regards to gun ownership. Supporting extreme, racist and intolerant views only reinforces what anti-gun advocates assume about gun owners in general.

 

[2A_Tom]

I really Like this ad.

It is my opinion that a PRIVATE business is allowed to make its own rules.

Government is not allowed to discriminate.

Tactical-Life.com » Texas firearms instructor draws heat for potentially discriminatory radio ad (audio).

QUOTE Originally stated by Crockett Keller

“If you are a socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner-in-chief, please do not take this class,” Keller says in the ad’s closing seconds, also taking a swipe at President Barack Obama. “You’ve already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision as required under the law. Also, if you are a non-Christian Arab or Muslim, I will not teach you this class. Once again, with no shame, I am Crockett Keller.”

 

[HDSilvrStreak]

A PRIVATE business is not allowed to discriminate either. By your logic, I should be able to open up a diner I could only serve white males. If his ad said he wouldn't teach those that are Jewish or Catholic, is that OK? How about if he said those that were planning on voting for Ron Paul were too stupid to take his class because they were planning on wasting their vote on someone unelectable?

The ad is just wrong.

JETGIRL - What if his ad said "If you are a female I will not teach you. You have no business having a dangerous weapon near you because you've proven in the past to be unstable due to cycles." Would you still defend his right to say something like that? Given your efforts to educate people on female marksmanship and ownership, I doubt you'd defend it then.

 

[JetGirl]

JETGIRL - What if his ad said "If you are a female I will not teach you. You have no business having a dangerous weapon near you because you've proven in the past to be unstable due to cycles." Would you still defend his right to say something like that? Given your efforts to educate people on female marksmanship and ownership, I doubt you'd defend it then.

Then you'd be wrong.
I'd absolutely defend your right to say whatever you wanted to say.
As for what I'd personally do, I suppose that would be "spend my money on training elsewhere". Just because I defend your right to free speech doesn't mean I agree with what you've said. Don't confuse the two.

 

[HDSilvrStreak]

We agree on free speech. I just don't see this as a free speech issue, but rather a discrimination issue. He can certainly fee any way that he does and say anything that he wants, I'll agree to that. Where I feel he is wrong is limiting his services to particular groups or, in this case, denying certain groups of his services based on their religious or political affiliations.

 

[JetGirl]

Where I feel he is wrong is limiting his services to particular groups or, in this case, denying certain groups of his services based on their religious or political affiliations.

You can feel any way you want. It doesn't change his rights.
If I purchased donuts and decided to give them away to everybody except PETA members and Scientologist...it's my right.