kgb american style

[serpicostraight]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvZRM-P46rI]YouTube - Government Agents Seize Oath Keeper's New Born From Hospital[/ame] i dont know if this is for real still working on verification but considering everything else they are doing it comes as no surprise.

 

[PatriotPride]

I listened to it. I hate to pass judgement...but I really do not think we are being told the full extent of the story here. Still, it makes me wonder...

 

[techres]

Bomb-Sniffing Dogs Check Hospital During Protest

Demonstrators Protest After DCYF Seizes Newborn

 

[serpicostraight]

theres a discussion on oath keepers now about this. they are investigating it themselves.

 

[Joe Williams]

Bomb-Sniffing Dogs Check Hospital During Protest

Demonstrators Protest After DCYF Seizes Newborn

Why would they target the hospital, and not the homes of the people who stole the child, assuming there isn't more to the story? If his child was taken for political reasons, there is no moral reason not to target the homes and families of the evil doers.

Edit: For the record, I strongly suspect there is LOTS more to the story. At least, I really hope so.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

but considering everything else they are doing

Who is "they"?

Has Mr. Irish released the (unredacted) affidavit yet?

 

[serpicostraight]

Who is "they"?

Has Mr. Irish released the (unredacted) affidavit yet?

the they i was talking about was the media. it seems lately they are all putting whatever slant they want on a story so im not sure what to believe until some more facts come out. as far as i know he hasnt released it yet but not sure ill check on that and let you know.

 

[techres]

Has Mr. Irish released the (unredacted) affidavit yet?

This is what I am looking to see as well. Should be interesting. Wondering if smoking gun will get ahold of it.

 

[SavageEagle]

Bomb-Sniffing Dogs Check Hospital During Protest

Demonstrators Protest After DCYF Seizes Newborn

Here's a link I found in the comments section of this article...

Government Seizes Newborn Baby Over Political Beliefs Of Parents

 

[Joe Williams]

It would appear that there are, indeed other issues, involving these parents.

However, reading the affadavit, it also appears that the parents political beliefs were a major factor in the government's seizure of the child. Frankly, at this point I don't care what else the parents may or may not have done. Clearly, government agents are persecuting them based at least partially on their political beliefs.

That is treasonous. And it could affect many on this board, since those parents share at least some of the same beliefs we do.

 

[SavageEagle]

It would appear that there are, indeed other issues, involving these parents.

However, reading the affadavit, it also appears that the parents political beliefs were a major factor in the government's seizure of the child. Frankly, at this point I don't care what else the parents may or may not have done. Clearly, government agents are persecuting them based at least partially on their political beliefs.

That is treasonous. And it could affect many on this board, since those parents share at least some of the same beliefs we do.

Exactly. Maybe if the government hadn't used the Oath Keepers as a reason, most of us wouldn't have had a problem with this situation. However, I don't believe the government should take anyone's kid(s) away. The FAMILY should be the ones to do that.

In the comments section of the first article, I read that this guy is about 21/22 and while in High School called in bomb threats, threatened Colombine style shootings, and when he got older was charged with carrying without a permit (), battery, etc, and that the mother had her kids taken away because of neglect and abuse.

Whether the previous case's allegations are true or not, it doesn't make any of this right. I don't care if this guy peed in the hallway at school, the government has no business taking anyone's kid(s) away.

 

[mrjarrell]

Will Posting On A Forum Get You Put On A "List"?

Yes. It happened to a guy the other day and they lost their newborn child to their states CPS. Granted the guy and his wife had a ton of other issues that put them on the states radar, some probably deservedly so, but the state made a point of mentioning that he was affiliated with the Oath Keepers forum. Apparently, he was a poster there and a gun owner, (they also made a point of bringing that up). David Codrea takes a look at it and makes the point that people commenting at his sites and others are quite likely on the .gov list. Does that include INGO? I'd be more than willing to bet it does, given the many discussions we've had here.

Will posting comments here put YOU on the government's watch list? - National gun rights | Examiner.com

 

[Que]

I wouldn't doubt it. That is why everyone must be cautious about what they say on the internet.

 

[semperfi211]

How easy is it to find the real identity of someone on here?

 

[Bill of Rights]

How easy is it to find the real identity of someone on here?

It depends what resources you have and what information they've shared.

Also, this subject is already being discussed here:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/113235-kgb_american_style.html

Threads merged. (posts 12-15 added to original thread.)

 

[sj kahr k40]

How easy is it to find the real identity of someone on here?

In 3 minutes I found your first name, where you work and your email, I think I could find you if in wanted too

 

[semperfi211]

In 3 minutes I found your first name, where you work and your email, I think I could find you if in wanted too

Yes, I know my first name and who I work for are in my public info, I didn't know my email is in there.I don't think I am to exciting or interesting so I don't make a real big attempt at secracy, although I wont post my full name and address and what shift I work for burglars to come get my guns.

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

The reasons I've seen listed is hardly worth the child being stolen. This appears to be intimidation of the American dissent produced by Big Govt.

I cant think of anything more scary than having my children stolen from me.


The Govt is consistantly proving it's tyrannical ways.

They came first for the militia members,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a militia member.

Then they came for the three percenters,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a three percenter.

Then they came for the Oath Keepers,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t an Oath Keeper.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

So, defend the right of even the most hardcore militia members to freely associate without that right being chilled and suppressed by means of the threat of taking their kids.

 

[308jake]

Now this is some scary shift. Even only part is true....scary.

 

[nova512]

the gov. will twist anything they want if they want your a$$ bad enough.and if they want you ,sad to say there gonna get you.unless you have enough money to buy your way out.or your a part of the house or senate.then you have a golden ticket to f$%k anyone over lol.