Legality of Extendable Batons

[jmo2003bu]

Just another reason to love Indiana...no laws restricting the rights of an individual to carry a long stick!

On a more serious note...my father-in-law lives in VA and had to take a class on the use of one in order to get his liscense to carry it. I wouldn't have believed it unless I saw it with my own eyes...it's a seperate liscense from their CCW

 

[oldfb]

"Legal eh no legal eh is grey area"

 

[public servant]

Nice Public Servant! Who makes that? I dont see a method to use it as a pen, so I assume its solid and purely for defensive (not writing) purpose?

That one is made by KZ Xtreme. And yes...it is strictly for defense.

 

[sig-sweet]

I used to carry an expandable baton, I pulled it out and expanded it one time ( the baton) and the next thing I knew, they wanted me to lead the band in a parade. Boy...was I embarrassed.

 

[GuyRelford]

I believe any citizen should be able to carry any weapon they wish. That said a expandable baton screams police. This is about avoiding the appearance of evil. A sturdy pen in the eye like the Zebra 701 which you can carry anywhere..even in your hand, will stop a fight as fast as an ASP, and you will not hesitate to use it like a prohibited weapon.- Just my $.02- George

Agreed. Also check out the Tactical Defense Pen by Mil-Tac: Tactical Defense Pens - TDP-1

I carry one everywhere - including the Peoples Republic of Illinois. (They haven't' banned writing utensils - yet).

That said, I'm not aware of any Indiana law that prohibits collabsable batons (athough I have to admit I've never researched the issue). If they were going to be illegal, I'd have to believe they would show up in the "prohibited instruments of violence" statute, Ind. Code 35-41-5, along with self-opening switchblades and Chinese throwing stars - and they don't.

 

[Armed & Christian]

For less than a tenth of the price of a "tactical" ink pen, you could invest in a Pentech brand "Matisse" like I have. All metal construction, very pointy nib. If, God forbid, I found myself in a position where I was actually ready to consider utilizing an ink pen as a weapon, I think I'd trust this one as much as I'd be willing to trust any writing implement; tactical or otherwise.

 

[tv1217]

Show of hands, would a collapsible baton be a good idea for crawlspace critter defense?

 

[techres]

We own an asp that I got for my wife when we were having dog problems in the neighborhood (big and small dogs). Twice she deployed it and in both cases the barking dogs got quiet and left. Probably the "CLANK" sound, but whatever, it helped.

We don't use it much anymore, but have not gotten rid of it either.

 

[teknickle]

I used to carry kubotans with me (even in high school I sometimes had one around my neck--just to see if anyone knew what it was).
When I worked for a lawfirm during college, my kubotan was my keychain.
For some reason, I didn't leave the keys at the office when I walked over to the courthouse for routine file work. Was prevented entrance to the county courthouse if I had that kubotan keychain. (and they wouldn't let it stay on the table).
Mind you, that was 16 years ago!

 

[hotfarmboy1]

I gave my sister one of those expandable batons along with some pepper spray when she moved out to Seattle. I figured if she wouldn't take a gun with her for home defense, I had to send something. And she's a very strong, quick, physical person so I thought a baton would work out well. I may need to buy her an ASP brand one though. She told me a couple months ago a friend of hers extended it hard and she couldn't get it to collapse again. Not sure if she ever got it or not.

 

[mercop]

It absolutely pains me how police are trained to use the stick because of liability reasons. Most of it flies in the face of what is actually makes the stick so effective. A simple rattan escrima stick is absolutely my favorite SD tool hand down.- George

 

[IDCC]

I emailed the ISP a couple of years ago and was responded to by a Female State Police LT whose name I cant remember. She said yes a private citizen can own and carry one but they are considered a [STRIKE]lethal [/STRIKE] Deadly weapon not a less lethal weapon.

 

[ggglobert9]

Don't forget a good old tactical light...big or small... is not illegal anywhere that I know of. But what do I know?

 

[mercop]

Don't forget a good old tactical light...big or small... is not illegal anywhere that I know of. But what do I know?

C'mon, what if it is not tactical? Paint it black and velcro some MOLLE to it

I agree, lights are underrated.- George

 

[Kirk Freeman]

She said yes a private citizen can own and carry one but they are considered a lethal weapon not a less lethal weapon.

Lethal weapon?

Wonder why she would say that. Maybe she thought she just had to say something?

Very odd.

 

[jeremy]

Batons are just another tool to have in your box. They have their place in usage, along with a wide variety of instruments.
They big thing is not to get hung up on the idea that I only have a firearm, or I only have a edged weapon. Also try to avoid the thought that only a firearm, edged weapon, or baton is a weapon. If you take the mindset that you are the weapon and all other things are tools to be used, look around your locations and you might be surprised at what is readily laying around to pommel someone into submission with...

 

[greyhound47]

Lethal weapon?

Wonder why she would say that. Maybe she thought she just had to say something?

Very odd.

If you wield it against another human the ASP baton is considered a deadly weapon. This is the same as a baseball bat. The BB bat is not considered a deadly weapon but it will be classified as such if you use it in the commission of a crime.