Liberals, Conservatives, and Libertarians: What’s the Difference?

[rambone]

Libertarians believe that people should be free to live their lives any way they choose, so long as their conduct is peaceful.

Liberals and conservatives believe that people should be free to live their lives any way they choose, so long as their conduct is responsible.

This quote really stuck out to me.

Basically we are left with bureaucrats' definitions of what types of behavior are "responsible" enough for them. In the end it is all just Nannyism.

 

[88GT]

Why are immigration and border security important enough to warrant restriction of free commerce & free movement of people? Remove all state-welfare & immigration incentives change to a healthy situation. Border security isn't necessary if we stop banning substances & cease foreign occupations which create external enemies.

Which is just another way of saying we deserve it.

History proves time and again that--with the singular exception of one Western European country--if a nation wants what another has, it will act. Playing nice is playing weak. And if the two are mutually exclusive, I guess you'll have to pick your poison: a slightly more regulated situation with a strong defense or a free-for-all with nothing standing between you and the invader who wants to destroy all that you have and stand for.

 

[beararms1776]

Conservative ideology at its roots (think Barry Goldwater) had some redeeming qualities. But very few people practice what they preach and the word "conservative" has very little practical meaning anymore, as you mentioned. A conservative of today and a conservative of several decades ago hold quite a bit of ideological differences.

Corruption, greed and the lust for power and control has taken the front seat from the redeeming qualities.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Corruption, greed and the lust for power and control has taken the front seat from the redeeming qualities.

And why is that? Becasue that's the kind of behavior we reward as consumers of entertainment, goods, and services.

If we rewarded altruism and honor, then more people would be altruistic and honorable.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

 

[beararms1776]

And why is that?

I believe it starts from the top. Every group has a leader.

 

[Randall Flagg]

Hm, what is the difference?

Looking at a chart of our debt going up each year shows me that there is no difference.

I do love watch idiots complain about those in power and how when their guy gets in, they re going to undo all the wrongs that the left/right wing has done.

It boggles the mind people still vote left/right and then consider themself ntelligent in any way, shape, or form.

 

[Pocketman]

Get some Prozac.

Good idea. Eli Lilly can use the income.

 

[dross]

Hm, what is the difference?

Looking at a chart of our debt going up each year shows me that there is no difference.

I do love watch idiots complain about those in power and how when their guy gets in, they re going to undo all the wrongs that the left/right wing has done.

It boggles the mind people still vote left/right and then consider themself ntelligent in any way, shape, or form.

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

 

[Randall Flagg]

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

As do you ami

 

[ATOMonkey]

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

Wait 'till I get going!!!

 

[ATOMonkey]

I believe it starts from the top. Every group has a leader.

And every group also has followers. Pro sports wouldn't be anything without fans. Giant corporations wouldn't be anything without consumers.

The only reason greed is able to survive is that it is being fueled by someone voluntarily. The only exception being politicians who are funded through legal theft.

 

[dross]

And every group also has followers. Pro sports wouldn't be anything without fans. Giant corporations wouldn't be anything without consumers.

The only reason greed is able to survive is that it is being fueled by someone voluntarily. The only exception being politicians who are funded through legal theft.

I've never really understood the word, "greed."

 

[ATOMonkey]

Greed is simply a lack of compassion combined with narcissism. imo

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Libertarians believe that people should be free to live their lives any way they choose, so long as their conduct is peaceful.

Liberals and conservatives believe that people should be free to live their lives any way they choose, so long as their conduct is responsible.

This quote really stuck out to me.

Basically we are left with bureaucrats' definitions of what types of behavior are "responsible" enough for them. In the end it is all just Nannyism.

Basically we are left with [strike]bureaucrats'[/strike] an actor's definitions of what types of behavior are "[strike]"responsible"[/strike] "peaceful" enough for them. In the end it is all just [strike]Nannyism[/strike] Anarchy.

I guess it's all perspective.

 

[rambone]

Basically we are left with [strike]bureaucrats'[/strike] an actor's definitions of what types of behavior are "[strike]"responsible"[/strike] "peaceful" enough for them. In the end it is all just [strike]Nannyism[/strike] Anarchy.

I guess it's all perspective.

I'm not certain what actor is making laws unless you're talking about ol' Arnie out in California. I missed the acting reference somewhere apparently.

And is there really any disconnect from the laws that try to "enforce responsibility," and Nanny State government?

What is this idea that somehow Anarchy is always on our doorstep? Seems to me that there are a few hundred thousand laws standing in the way of anarchy. We are on the verge of full-blown state socialism/fascism and people are worrying about Anarchy. Really? Were the founding fathers Anarchists?

 

[Bondhead88]

Jacob Hornberger takes a look at the differences between the 3 political entities. As he notes, there are some deviations between individuals in those camps, but by and large they do manage to fit the mold when we take a look at the big picture. Conservative and Liberals talk up their differences, but in the end, they're not all that different.

Hornberger's Blog - Liberals, Conservatives, and Libertarians: What’s the Difference?

The Difference is Liberals tell you what you can't do, Conservatives tell you what you can do, Libertarians tell you that you can do anything!

 

[Blue Tile Spook]

The Difference is Liberals tell you what you can't do, Conservatives tell you what you can do, Libertarians tell you that you can do anything!

IMO, you have it backwards.

Liberals try to tell you what you are allowed to do.
Conservatives try to tell you what you can't do.
Libertarians tell you that you can do anything.

 

[Bondhead88]

IMO, you have it backwards.

Liberals try to tell you what you are allowed to do.
Conservatives try to tell you what you can't do.
Libertarians tell you that you can do anything.

Toematoe, Tamato, Poetatoe, Patato

 

[dross]

IMO, you have it backwards.

Liberals try to tell you what you are allowed to do.
Conservatives try to tell you what you can't do.
Libertarians tell you that you can do anything.

Liberals and conservatives want to use the law to tell you what you can and can't do, they just want to allow and restrict different things.

Libertarians don't care what you do as along as you don't infringe on someone else's rights.

 

[Garb]

Libertarians don't care what you do as along as you don't infringe on someone else's rights.

Yup. Sounds like anarchy to me...