Looks like the bumpstock ban is about to become real

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Hold on there. It was said awkwardly—there is only one president at a time—but the sentiment is spot on. Of the people who have a shot at becoming POTUS in 2020, Trump is the most supportive of the 2A. There is not a Democrat who has a shot at it who is even neutral on gun control. The next election, for anyone supportive of gun rights, is a trade-off between anti-gun zealots and Trump, for all his faults, real amd imagined. In terms of gun control, the choice is between someone who abused his power as president to ban bump stocks vs someone who would surely abuse his or her power to ban guns.

I've seen a few names of republicans mentioned that might consider primarying Trump in 2020. Names like Krystol, Flake, and Kasich. Does anyone think those guys would have gone to the mattresses defending bumpstocks? We already know where any democrat would have stood. (Though if one of them had been president, maybe the republicans would have resisted a little bit more just because of partisanship...but not guaranteed). None of the likely 2020 victors will likely seek to roll back anything. We'll be lucky if they don't roll over on UBCs or a federal red flag law.

Sadly, there is no viable alternative.

 

[actaeon277]

I'm an alternative.
Maybe not so viable though.

 

[cbhausen]

The fail is strong in this editorial. The author uses every cliché in the book along with just about every unsubstantiated claim you can come up with regarding his wish list for gun control. It makes me ill that so many people lap this crap up:

https://amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/2447381002

 

[Hop]

Not sure which of these I'll be wearing at NRAAM Indy 2019. What you say INGO?

[url]https://shop.tactical****.com/now-i-have-a-machine-gun-t-shirt

[/URL]https://www.forgedfromfreedom.com/products/come-and-take-it-bump-stock-mens-t-shirt

 

[Kutnupe14]

Not sure which of these I'll be wearing at NRAAM Indy 2019. What you say INGO?

https://shop.tactical****.com/now-i-have-a-machine-gun-t-shirt

https://www.forgedfromfreedom.com/products/come-and-take-it-bump-stock-mens-t-shirt

Now that's funny! I like the sentiment, but it kinda falls flat if you overthink it.

 

[Bennettjh]

The fail is strong in this editorial. The author uses every cliché in the book along with just about every unsubstantiated claim you can come up with regarding his wish list for gun control. It makes me ill that so many people lap this crap up:

https://amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/2447381002

What a crock of crap.

 

[cbhausen]

GOA won a small victory when the Fed’s motion to delay GOA’s lawsuit was denied. The Court wouldn’t let the current government shutdown be used as a reason to delay the proceedings. Let’s all hope this is a good sign:

https://www.pscp.tv/w/bwVx3TFQWEtkb...-l_Qkb0HR3SeD-Uw6IQPQ_QUWPV9Oe31jc57D?t=3m40s

 

[dudley0]

Maybe when they head to court the GOV employees will not show up at all, since they are out of work.

That would be awesome, and time to start some other cases.

I know it won't happen, but it would be cool if it did.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reverse-bump-stock-ban-against-firearm-parts

Petition on the White House website needs another 95,000 signatures before 1/20 for a response.

Good luck with that...

 

[AmmoManAaron]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reverse-bump-stock-ban-against-firearm-parts

Petition on the White House website needs another 95,000 signatures before 1/20 for a response.

Good luck with that...

I just did my part and signed.

 

[nwihiker]

Maybe when they head to court the GOV employees will not show up at all, since they are out of work.

It would definitely be ironic when you consider the only reason machine guns (and now “machine guns”) are still quasi-illegal is because in the SC case challenging the NFA, the defense didn’t show up to the hearing, which allowed the feds to lie their way to unconstitutional gun control.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Miller

 

[bwframe]

[video=youtube;grgfKJT4Z48]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grgfKJT4Z48[/video]

 

[ghitch75]

[video=youtube;grgfKJT4Z48]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grgfKJT4Z48[/video]

yes all fingers get chopped off and destroyed....

 

[Lilboog82]

Has there been any update on the GOA lawsuit regarding the ban?

 

[MCgrease08]

Has there been any update on the GOA lawsuit regarding the ban?

The last update I heard from a week or so ago, was that a judge denied a request by the DOJ asking for a stay on the hearing re: GOA's request for an injunction.

Basically .gov argued that the shutdown would prevent lawyers from being able to attend the hearing but the judge wasn't having it.

[video=youtube_share;rQ6rCSWHHRE]http://youtu.be/rQ6rCSWHHRE[/video]

 

[NyleRN]

The last update I heard from a week or so ago, was that a judge denied a request by the DOJ asking for a stay on the hearing re: GOA's request for an injunction.

Basically .gov argued that the shutdown would prevent lawyers from being able to attend the hearing but the judge wasn't having it.

[video=youtube_share;rQ6rCSWHHRE]http://youtu.be/rQ6rCSWHHRE[/video]

And the silver bullet to help defeat the NFA is getting cans taken off through HPA. But it suffers from the same fate as national carry reciprocity, not enough votes in the house.

 

[cbhausen]

And here, folks, is an example why we shouldn’t rely on Rolling Stone for our gun-related news:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/bump-stock-rule-771259/

The article really misses the mark when it comes to how bump stocks work and .gov’s rationale for banning them.

 

[Injess]

And here, folks, is an example why we shouldn’t rely on Rolling Stone for our gun-related news:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/bump-stock-rule-771259/

The article really misses the mark when it comes to how bump stocks work and .gov’s rationale for banning them.

I can’t believe I just read all of that rolling stone article, I hope I didn’t lose too many brain cells in the process.

the NRA is quiet because they see it as a compromise. I personally feel like you should never take a backwards step on the 2A. Which is why I’ll be supporting gun owners of America.

i got the impression from the article that the author feels semi automatic fire is more deadly than full automatic. I’d be willing to support a law that only allows civilians to own full automatic weapons and all semiautomatic weapons must be converted, it’s a horrible sacrifice but I’ll do it for the children.

 

[cce1302]

Miculek is a good dude. basically said, It's has no application for me, but if you want to go have a giggle, that's fine, that's what makes this country great."

Sounds like a libertarian philosophy to me...

Also, conquer ignorance and fear by bringing someone shooting!

 

[BigRed]

[video=youtube;grgfKJT4Z48]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grgfKJT4Z48[/video]

I wonder how it would compare to a binary trigger / bump stock combo.