LTCH, knives and other weapons questions.

[Sylvain]

What kind of weapon can you carry with a LTCH?

I know that some other state have a CCW permit so they can carry knives, peper spray, police batons and of course handguns.
The LTCH being for handguns and not for "concealed weapons" you can only carry a handgun right?

In another thread I learned that in Indiana you can carry knives concealed, foldling or fixed blade no matter the size just by being over 18 of age.Is that true?

So if I already have the right to carry those items without a LTCH I can still carry them if I do have a LTCH?

Tell me if im right ...
I can carry those items: Folding knife, fixed blade knife, Peper spray, Police baton without a LTCH and the LTCH is only needed to carry a handgun.Right?

 

[ATM]

Right.

 

[sj kahr k40]

You are right, LTCH only pertains to handguns

 

[b0Rn~c0nfus3d]

Looks like you studied good job.

 

[Sylvain]

Looks like you studied good job.

Thanks, I did!

But im never sure I get things right.

 

[LPMan59]

Thanks, I did!

But im never sure I get things right.

you must be married

 

[Timjoebillybob]

You do not have to be 18 to carry the other things such as knives/pepper spray/baton etc., under state law. Local ordinances may vary. And that includes by those over 18.

And one other thing I'll put below.

You are right, LTCH only pertains to handguns

And tasers and electronic stun weapons require a LTCH to carry.

IC 35-47-8-4
Applicability of handgun provisions
Sec. 4. IC 35-47-2 applies to an electronic stun weapon or taser.

Indiana Code 35-47-8

 

[jbombelli]

You are correct. However, be careful as it pertains to fixed blades. Although carrying any fixed blade you want is allowed under state law, some municipalities may have ordinances to the contrary on the books. As far as I know, preemption regarding the law only applies to GUNS, which means any unit can regulate knives however they want.

As far as I'm concerned, any cop that gives you a hard time for carrying a fixed blade while you're carrying a handgun with a LTCH is a worthless POS. But my opinion of those particular individuals certainly won't do anything towards convincing them how misguided they are.

 

[Bradsknives]

You are correct. However, be careful as it pertains to fixed blades. Although carrying any fixed blade you want is allowed under state law, some municipalities may have ordinances to the contrary on the books. As far as I know, preemption regarding the law only applies to GUNS, which means any unit can regulate knives however they want.

As far as I'm concerned, any cop that gives you a hard time for carrying a fixed blade while you're carrying a handgun with a LTCH is a worthless POS. But my opinion of those particular individuals certainly won't do anything towards convincing them how misguided they are.

Looks like we need an OC fixed blade day.......maybe down town Indy ....say the city market area.

 

[Buckaroo]

License To Carry Handgun

 

[ThrottleJockey]

I for one find it hilarious that I can carry a concealed loaded handgun but can not even posses an automatic knife without committing a class D felony....

 

[Sylvain]

I for one find it hilarious that I can carry a concealed loaded handgun but can not even posses an automatic knife without committing a class D felony....

I know I have no idea what drug they take to come up with stupid laws like that.
I carry a double edged fixed blade and a folding knife that I can open just as fast as my little 3" blade OTF knife.
I have to leave the OTF knife at home because if I believe the law its way more dangerous than any other knife or weapon out there.

 

[finity]

OTF knife

?

 

[grimor]

Don't forget to carry your handcuffs too

 

[Sylvain]

Don't forget to carry your handcuffs too

I dont carry all those things, its just to know what I COULD carry.
I do have handcuffs but they dont leave the bedroom.

 

[Sylvain]

?

OTF=Out The Front, that's a kind of automatic knife.
This model is a double-action.
It's fun to play with and its way more dangerous than a semi-automatic handgun, that's why the law doesnt allow you to carry it.

I guess since it's automatic they thought it was more dangerous than a handgun who is only semi-automatic.

 

[JoshuaW]

I guess since it's automatic they thought it was more dangerous than a handgun who is only semi-automatic.

Hilarious, I love it!

The whole OTF thing makes me laugh. I was with a friend a few years ago, and we got pulled over. The Goshen cop did his spiel about weapons, and my friend fessed up to having a knife in the car. The cop asked to see it, and my friend handed it over (mistake number six or seven at this point, but we wont focus on that). It was a really nice OFT that my friend had bought while on a trip to South America. Hand carved, looked like it would have cost several hundred dollars in the States. He payed $2 for it! Anyways, the cop lectured us for 15 minutes on how illegal the knife was, but then still returned it because he was so impressed with the craftsmanship on it. He told my friend to just keep it at home, because it would be a shame if it ever got confiscated and destroyed.

 

[finity]

OTF=Out The Front, that's a kind of automatic knife.
This model is a double-action.
It's fun to play with and its way more dangerous than a semi-automatic handgun, that's why the law doesnt allow you to carry it.

I guess since it's automatic they thought it was more dangerous than a handgun who is only semi-automatic.

That's what I thought.

I hope you know that knife is not just illegal to carry, it's illegal to possess in IN.

IC 35-47-5-2
Knife with blade that opens automatically or may be propelled
Sec. 2. It is a Class B misdemeanor for a person to manufacture, possess, display, offer, sell, lend, give away, or purchase any knife with a blade that:
(1) opens automatically; or
(2) may be propelled;
by hand pressure applied to a button, device containing gas, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife.

Notice the italicized & bolded part. Just owning it is illegal.

You might not want to pass it around that you have it.

 

[Sylvain]

That's what I thought.

I hope you know that knife is not just illegal to carry, it's illegal to possess in IN.



Notice the italicized & bolded part. Just owning it is illegal.

You might not want to pass it around that you have it.

Wow thanks for the info.
I didnt know the law was so messed up that you couldnt even own it in Indiana.I dont think that people who made this law ever saw an OTF knife.
Lot's of people believe (thanks to movies) that you can open and stab someone with the force of the spring which is not true at all.
I can open open the blade against my hand and that just stops it.
But anyway I have no problem to say that I own one.
I do not own it in Indiana, I have it at my second home in a country where its legal to own auto knives.I just bought it at my local knife shop.
100% legal!

 

[KokomoDave]

I have an assisted OTF that you def don't want to try to stop with the force of your hand!