Lying to the police during traffic stop

[Denny347]

Why tell me? Either record it nor not, no need to bring it up. What do I care? Record for your own purposes but don't use it to alter the stop's outcome. Oh, and the only trouble lying will get you in on a traffic stop is if you lie about who you are.

 

[jmiller676]

Why tell me? Either record it nor not, no need to bring it up. What do I care? Record for your own purposes but don't use it to alter the stop's outcome. Oh, and the only trouble lying will get you in on a traffic stop is if you lie about who you are.

 

[mrortega]

I'm confused. (SOP for me.) Why is there such a hassle in some states/cities when a citizen videos some cop doing a stop or arresting someone? Is it illegal in some locals?

 

[dross]

Why tell me? Either record it nor not, no need to bring it up. What do I care? Record for your own purposes but don't use it to alter the stop's outcome. Oh, and the only trouble lying will get you in on a traffic stop is if you lie about who you are.

Denny, I don't know what exactly you do for the police department, but unless you're the head of training officers how to conduct themselves with the public, you're in the wrong job.

 

[youngda9]

What do you have to lose from tricking some poor waitress?

Your dignity.

That ship has sailed...+1. That's just wrong man.

Expect to be eating spit and who knows what else the next time you set foot in that restaurant.

 

[youngda9]

Lying to the police

If you do it correctly, lying can work in your favor:

Officer: May I see your driver's license?
Driver: I don't have one. I had it suspended when I got my 5th DUI.
Officer: May I see the owner's card for this vehicle?
Driver: It's not my car. I stole it.
Officer: The car is stolen?
Driver: That's right. But come to think of it, I think I saw the owner's card in the glove box when I was putting my gun in there.
Officer: There's a gun in the glove box?
Driver: Yes sir. That's where I put it after I shot and killed the woman who owns this car and stuffed her in the trunk.
Officer: There's a BODY in the TRUNK?!?!?
Driver: Yes, sir.
Hearing this, the officer immediately called his captain. The car was quickly surrounded by police, and the captain approached the driver to handle the tense situation:
Captain: Sir, can I see your license?
Driver: Sure. Here it is. (It was valid).
Captain: Who's car is this?
Driver: It's mine, officer. Here's the owner's card. (The driver owned the car).
Captain: Could you slowly open your glove box so I can see if there's a gun in it?
Driver: Yes, sir, but there's no gun in it. Sure enough, there was nothing in the glove box.
Captain: Would you mind opening your trunk? I was told you said there's a body in it.
Driver: No problem. (Trunk is opened; no body).
Captain: I don't understand it. The officer who stopped you said you told him you didn't have a license, stole the car, had a gun in the glove box, and that there was a dead body in the trunk.
Driver: Oh Yeah, I'll bet the liar told you I was speeding, too!!!!


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[jmiller676]

If you do it correctly, lying can work in your favor:

Officer: May I see your driver's license?
Driver: I don't have one. I had it suspended when I got my 5th DUI.
Officer: May I see the owner's card for this vehicle?
Driver: It's not my car. I stole it.
Officer: The car is stolen?
Driver: That's right. But come to think of it, I think I saw the owner's card in the glove box when I was putting my gun in there.
Officer: There's a gun in the glove box?
Driver: Yes sir. That's where I put it after I shot and killed the woman who owns this car and stuffed her in the trunk.
Officer: There's a BODY in the TRUNK?!?!?
Driver: Yes, sir.
Hearing this, the officer immediately called his captain. The car was quickly surrounded by police, and the captain approached the driver to handle the tense situation:
Captain: Sir, can I see your license?
Driver: Sure. Here it is. (It was valid).
Captain: Who's car is this?
Driver: It's mine, officer. Here's the owner's card. (The driver owned the car).
Captain: Could you slowly open your glove box so I can see if there's a gun in it?
Driver: Yes, sir, but there's no gun in it. Sure enough, there was nothing in the glove box.
Captain: Would you mind opening your trunk? I was told you said there's a body in it.
Driver: No problem. (Trunk is opened; no body).
Captain: I don't understand it. The officer who stopped you said you told him you didn't have a license, stole the car, had a gun in the glove box, and that there was a dead body in the trunk.
Driver: Oh Yeah, I'll bet the liar told you I was speeding, too!!!!


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I would try that but don't feel like having a gun pointed at me and spread eagle on the ground. LOL.

 

[Archaic_Entity]

Actually, a slight thread-jack, but still on topic.

I got pulled over two days ago for speeding (I was going 8 over and I knew it). Asked to pull out my ID and the Deputy saw my LTCH (I assume) and asked if there was a weapon in the vehicle. As I was just coming back from Ohio, I was unarmed, and truthfully responded.

However, if he had asked me if there was a weapon and I said, "No," while carrying... what then?

It's still lying to an officer in a traffic stop, but if it keeps me from getting disarmed for going 8 over...?

End result: Verbal warning. The guy seemed really nice, I may have shot him a word to this place except I had two passengers and it was 2 in the morning, I was too tired to chat.

 

[dross]

If you do it correctly, lying can work in your favor:

Officer: May I see your driver's license?
Driver: I don't have one. I had it suspended when I got my 5th DUI.
Officer: May I see the owner's card for this vehicle?
Driver: It's not my car. I stole it.
Officer: The car is stolen?
Driver: That's right. But come to think of it, I think I saw the owner's card in the glove box when I was putting my gun in there.
Officer: There's a gun in the glove box?
Driver: Yes sir. That's where I put it after I shot and killed the woman who owns this car and stuffed her in the trunk.
Officer: There's a BODY in the TRUNK?!?!?
Driver: Yes, sir.
Hearing this, the officer immediately called his captain. The car was quickly surrounded by police, and the captain approached the driver to handle the tense situation:
Captain: Sir, can I see your license?
Driver: Sure. Here it is. (It was valid).
Captain: Who's car is this?
Driver: It's mine, officer. Here's the owner's card. (The driver owned the car).
Captain: Could you slowly open your glove box so I can see if there's a gun in it?
Driver: Yes, sir, but there's no gun in it. Sure enough, there was nothing in the glove box.
Captain: Would you mind opening your trunk? I was told you said there's a body in it.
Driver: No problem. (Trunk is opened; no body).
Captain: I don't understand it. The officer who stopped you said you told him you didn't have a license, stole the car, had a gun in the glove box, and that there was a dead body in the trunk.
Driver: Oh Yeah, I'll bet the liar told you I was speeding, too!!!!


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I'd like to start an INGO fund. I'll commit to twenty bucks. We'll throw it all in the pot and you get it if you'll actually speed, get yourself stopped, say the above, and post what happens.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Denny, I don't know what exactly you do for the police department, but unless you're the head of training officers how to conduct themselves with the public, you're in the wrong job.

^^^This. And Denny, I owe you a rep.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Kcustom45]

...

However, if he had asked me if there was a weapon and I said, "No," while carrying... what then?

If you lie about carrying a weapon and the cop doesn't see it then you just have to live with being a liar. If you lie about carrying a weapon and the cop does see it you will probably end up looking down the barrel of a gun.

In the end I guess that is a choice you have to make.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Oh, and the only trouble lying will get you in on a traffic stop is if you lie about who you are.

Now, now, tell them the truth, there are MANY ways to go down for False Informing or Assisting a Criminal.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

What is this? Did everyone buy Machiavelli at the Border's Going Out of Business Sales?

What have I told you about running your bacon holes? Don't.

Stop the car, turn on the lights if you want/need to, hand the cop your DL and the registration. Above all relax, it's just an infraction/ordinance violation. You are not running drugs, you are not intoxicated, you are not carrying a pistol illegally because you listened to Kirk and got the license.

Don't play games, don't play twenty questions, I know you are nervous but your sound waves will not prevent a ticket from getting inside your car like some sort of wall of sound.

If you want to push "record" on your carcam or audio, if you are inside Indiana's borders, go right ahead. Smart move and may be helpful later.

Your silence, not your sound, is your shield.

 

[youngda9]

Your silence, not your sound, is your shield.

I thought only cops had a shield of silence ...isn't it located somewhere behind the thin blue line?

 

[jbombelli]

But lots to gain...never screw with the person making or bringing your food. Unless you like the idea of your food being enhanced with spit, snot, or other body fluids. If someone pulled that ten dollar crap on me, I'd remember. It would only happen once without some sort of retaliation.

I always wonder if crappy service is what finally pushes James Huberty over the edge in that San Ysidro McDonalds. Or that guy in that Texas cafeteria.

 

[youngda9]

I always wonder if crappy service is what finally pushes James Huberty over the edge in that San Ysidro McDonalds.

Didn't you see "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas...it's because the burger served to him didn't look like the one in the picture on the menu.

 

[jbombelli]

Didn't you see "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas...it's because the burger served to him didn't look like the one in the picture on the menu.

THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!

lol

I laugh, but in truth you just never know what might be the last straw for someone.

 

[henktermaat]

I got a ticket in 78, since then I have been pulled over 3-4 times. All of them were either verbal or written warnings. I always treated the officer as I wanted to be treated with courtesy and respect. Why would I change now?

This has worked for me as well.

Then again, I am better in every way than any LEO coming up to my window.

 

[Denny347]

This has worked for me as well.

Then again, I am better in every way than any LEO coming up to my window.

FIFY

 

[Denny347]

Denny, I don't know what exactly you do for the police department, but unless you're the head of training officers how to conduct themselves with the public, you're in the wrong job.

Haha, you flatter me. I'm just a beat officer. I am a certified firearms, combatives, and CrossFit instructor. Pretty much all things survival. I am fortunate that I surround myself with like-minded officers.