Martial law

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[gregkl]

Just by the fact that there are many different opinions on this very thread makes it difficult to determine what is "right" or "fair" or "safe", etc..

In some states, they are starting to charge people for rescue operations when they head into the wilderness and get into trouble.

Part of what the State is trying to do is keep the roads free of traffic so they can more effectively clear them. Police and Fire want to have resources to continue to catch bad guys and put out fires and such. Not spending their time rescuing people in 4WD's that end up off the road stuck.

And, I may be naive, but I think they want people to be safe and not get injured or freeze to death.

I grew up in a northern state and I could have gone out today and got around. But I had everything I needed for today in my home. My job enables me to work from home if I need to. Even though our plant and offices were closed, being in sales I still had customers in other parts of the country who did work. So I did a little work and made french toast for breakfast. After all I had eggs, bread and milk!

 

[Huntrdan]

Sounds like marshall law to me. Read the red. in.gov/dhs/traveladvisory/ very open ended language

 

[dwh79]

I work on the railroad at times when they have emergencies (so sometimes you just have to go) and yes I have been out in some bad weather I also drive around 45,000 miles a year and have a lot of experience driving in a variety of weather conditions. I also prep when I drive and keep food, water, warmth in my vehicle in case of the aught oh moment. I agree I don't want to put others in harm to help me and I support the dumb motorist laws like Arizona has.

 

[Snapdragon]

I work on the railroad at times when they have emergencies (so sometimes you just have to go) and yes I have been out in some bad weather I also drive around 45,000 miles a year and have a lot of experience driving in a variety of weather conditions. I also prep when I drive and keep food, water, warmth in my vehicle in case of the aught oh moment. I agree I don't want to put others in harm to help me and I support the dumb motorist laws like Arizona has.

And it's all about I, I, I, I, I.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Lol @ title

 

[SMiller]

F .gov, just do what you got to do but be smart about it, -50* wind chill will kill you damn fast, the drifts were bad, even to much for my 1ton truck to make it through in the country, unless you have a humvee and know what you at doing you were not going to be able to make it in my area.

If I need to get somewhere there is a reason for it and I am not going to let .gov tell me what I can/cannot do.

I watched a city owned pickup with plow on it doing sonuts/180's and screwing off the other day in a brand new truck, makes me mad to see some ass screwing off in the truck that we paid for while we pay him...

 

[traderdan]

What we call a "dangerous situation" is pretty normal weather some places. Sad that common sense is so lacking among the population, that they need some directive from on high to teach them how to stay safe. I saw a lot of good old boys out helping the city and county here around Martinsville when I was out and about.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Just by the fact that there are many different opinions on this very thread makes it difficult to determine what is "right" or "fair" or "safe", etc..

In some states, they are starting to charge people for rescue operations when they head into the wilderness and get into trouble.

Part of what the State is trying to do is keep the roads free of traffic so they can more effectively clear them. Police and Fire want to have resources to continue to catch bad guys and put out fires and such. Not spending their time rescuing people in 4WD's that end up off the road stuck.

And, I may be naive, but I think they want people to be safe and not get injured or freeze to death.

I grew up in a northern state and I could have gone out today and got around. But I had everything I needed for today in my home. My job enables me to work from home if I need to. Even though our plant and offices were closed, being in sales I still had customers in other parts of the country who did work. So I did a little work and made french toast for breakfast. After all I had eggs, bread and milk!

1. The question demanding an answer is that off whether we need or should have a nanny state controlling when we are allowed to leave our homes.

2. I am not sure I can go along with taxing people for emergency services and then charging people again when such services are rendered. It should be one way or the other, or at minimum have exclusion zones in which it is clearly communicated that emergency service are not available and you are on your own or must use a for-hire service.

3. Again, do you want to live under the thumb of a nanny state because its good for you? I will agree that under such conditions unnecessary travel is patently stupid, but, again, do you really want to live under a nanny state?

4. Once again, do you believe good intentions trump personal liberty?

5. You made a perfectly reasonable choice, very similar to my own (aside from working). That is just the point, it is a choice, not a decision made by someone else and dictated to you. See the difference?

 

[traderdan]

Was this law crafted by the same guy that planned our assistance to Europe, in recovering from WW II ?

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Somersault kick FTW!

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

1. The question demanding an answer is that off whether we need or should have a nanny state controlling when we are allowed to leave our homes.

I think the first question demanding an answer is do you think it really matters what kind of state you think you need, nanny or otherwise, would in any way affect the kind of state that you in fact have?

 

[ATM]

I pretty much do what I want.

 

[Dosproduction]

Yeah sorry about the title. LOL. Well im not to keen on someone telling me i cant drive to work unless that someone is paying my mortage.

 

[Sylvain]

I dont see what is so scary about Marshmallow.

 

[actaeon277]

I honestly don't understand how people sitting at home feel qualified to second-guess the decisions of the professionals who are responsible for the public safety. I guess that's a fundamental difference in perspective between those who trust authority and those who don't.

Have you ever met some of these so called professionals?

Are there individuals who should not be trusted? Of course. But I trust that if the city/county/state "powers that be" declare a state of emergency and say that travel is unsafe, they are much more qualified to make that judgement than I am.

And it's all about I, I, I, I, I.

If we should not judge gov worker because some are not experts, then we should not be judged as a group because some are not experts.

Its not about I i i i i.
Its about limitations on power.
Even in emergencies, there are limitations.

Where are those limits, das ist die fraga..

So 10 years from now, they say it is below 32 degrees, state of emergency.
And you say, for years you've dealt with that. Youve tent camped in that weather.
Or you did time in the army at the south pole.

Where is the limit.

Yes, many of those people are more experienced than i. But not all. And just because they are a gov employee, does not mean they are supermen/women.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I think the first question demanding an answer is do you think it really matters what kind of state you think you need, nanny or otherwise, would in any way affect the kind of state that you in fact have?

You bypassed the point being addressed. His question was about what is 'right', 'fair', or 'safe'. He addressed a question of right and proper, not what is or is not legal at the present.

The extent to which socialism has taken root in state government is an entirely different issue.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Who exactly gets to decide whose job is important enough to go to? If Dairy Queen is open and it is the only job I have what am I supposed to do?

 

[Trigger Time]

F .gov, just do what you got to do but be smart about it, -50* wind chill will kill you damn fast, the drifts were bad, even to much for my 1ton truck to make it through in the country, unless you have a humvee and know what you at doing you were not going to be able to make it in my area.

If I need to get somewhere there is a reason for it and I am not going to let .gov tell me what I can/cannot do.

I watched a city owned pickup with plow on it doing sonuts/180's and screwing off the other day in a brand new truck, makes me mad to see some ass screwing off in the truck that we paid for while we pay him...

I would have videotaped it and called the news and gave them the footage. A guaranteed fix to that problem!

 

[Scuba591]

I think it is vital to the success of the human race to allow people to go out in times like this. Thin the herd a bit... do us a favor and play in traffic, make grave mistakes. Survival of the fittest.