Massad Ayoob to host training class - proceeds go to Sand Burr Gun Ranch

[BehindBlueI's]

I have never understood the need for a high class hooker. Perhaps I am missing the point.

It's like a moped vs a Harley. Both will get you there, but you don't mind if your friends see you on a Harley.

 

[rhino]

"High class hooker." That's an oxymoron.

You have clearly never been to Las Vegas.

 

[CampingJosh]

It's like a moped vs a Harley. Both will get you there, but you don't mind if your friends see you on a Harley.

Was this supposed to be in response to the high-class hooker discussion?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Was this supposed to be in response to the high-class hooker discussion?

Ah yes, misquote.

 

[actaeon277]

Well, I've seen the hookers on Rt 12, 20 and Broadway.
So, I'm figuring, there's gotta be something higher class than that.

 

[cosermann]

Would love to train with Mas for a day (Saturday actually).

 

[cedartop]

Anybody signed up for this? I have the time and money set aside, but was sorta waiting on the weather. Rochester is a smooth hour and a half in decent weather, but it can be ugly during the winter.

 

[Bapak2ja]

What is the content of the Mag-20 class. Where are the prerequisites for attending? What does one need to know before attending?

 

[churchmouse]

Sticker shock can be found in the training world. One must do their research and make decisions wisely.

How much should an instructor charge one student for knowledge that they acquired over the years and spent a lot of blood sweat and toil to accumulate?

A highly trained/experienced HVAC tech makes more than this. You pay for the knowledge. The product is not a visual.
Money well spent in a proper training environment.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

A highly trained/experienced HVAC tech makes more than this. You pay for the knowledge. The product is not a visual.
Money well spent in a proper training environment.

Yeah, two ten hour days for $400 bucks? I'd pass.

 

[churchmouse]

Yeah, two ten hour days for $400 bucks? I'd pass.

Depends on what you are looking for.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Depends on what you are looking for.

I mean I personally, as a qualified HVAC tech, wouldn't do a job for that.

 

[churchmouse]

I mean I personally wouldn't do a job for that.

Me either. But X's how many students makes it a bit better I guess.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

What is the content of the Mag-20 class. Where are the prerequisites for attending? What does one need to know before attending?

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MAG-20 / Classroom - Armed Citizen's Rules of Engagement - Massad Ayoob Group

[FONT=&quot]A two-day, 20-hour immersion course in rules of engagement for armed law-abiding private citizens, emphasizing legal issues, tactical issues, and aftermath management. Topics will include interacting with suspects, witnesses, responding police officers…threat recognition and mind-set…management of social and psychological aftermath after having had to use lethal force in defense of self or others…and preparing beforehand for legal repercussions and minimizing exposure to them. Situations in the home, at the place of business, or “on the street” will all be covered.[/FONT]

 

[ChrisK]

I mean I personally, as a qualified HVAC tech, wouldn't do a job for that.

If you were just doing a install (labor only) and you had 20 people each paying you $400 you would. That's the way you have to look at it. I have taken a class with Mas (Mag 40) and it was well worth the money.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Me either. But X's how many students makes it a bit better I guess.

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I think folks tend to forget the logistics of a traveling instructor as well. Flights, rental cars, hotels, restaurants, etc take a bite out of the 'take'. Then for a normal "non-charity" shoot, the host facility gets paid and probably gets a few slots for free. For shooting classes, the consumables of targets, ammo used in demonstrations, etc. If the trainer is of any size, he probably has at least a secretary running the back end of booking, coordinating logistics, etc.

There's a lot of overhead for traveling trainers.

 

[Bapak2ja]

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MAG-20 / Classroom - Armed Citizen's Rules of Engagement - Massad Ayoob Group

[FONT=&amp]A two-day, 20-hour immersion course in rules of engagement for armed law-abiding private citizens, emphasizing legal issues, tactical issues, and aftermath management. Topics will include interacting with suspects, witnesses, responding police officers…threat recognition and mind-set…management of social and psychological aftermath after having had to use lethal force in defense of self or others…and preparing beforehand for legal repercussions and minimizing exposure to them. Situations in the home, at the place of business, or “on the street” will all be covered.[/FONT]

thanks.

 

[Coach]

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I think folks tend to forget the logistics of a traveling instructor as well. Flights, rental cars, hotels, restaurants, etc take a bite out of the 'take'. Then for a normal "non-charity" shoot, the host facility gets paid and probably gets a few slots for free. For shooting classes, the consumables of targets, ammo used in demonstrations, etc. If the trainer is of any size, he probably has at least a secretary running the back end of booking, coordinating logistics, etc.

There's a lot of overhead for traveling trainers.

Not to mention that the knowledge, wisdom and expertise they are transmitting did not come free or easy. Sometimes I am amazed at the folks who want an instructor to teach them everything in 2 hours and do it for $29.95 as though it was mail order junk they were getting.

 

[turnandshoot4]

I host classes out of Rochester. If you tell the Super 8 you are taking a class at Sand Burr you can get a lower rate when you call. I want to say it is right around $65? Don't quote me, but that is usually where our students stay.

 

[TomN]

I'm going to try to go to this.