Merkel crying a disingenuous river

[Kutnupe14]

I would wager that he is suggesting that the way Germans view their history is a supercharged version of how leftists are trying to get white folks in the USA to feel about their own history.



Uber alles in der veld is not very politically correct. White guilt is very politically correct.

And has't been since the end of the Second WW2, despite the anthem pre-dating the conflict. Perhaps it's supercharged, because, unlike the issue you mentioned stateside, there are still a very large amount people that remember, suffered, and fought in that conflict. It has to be quote sobering to know people directly that experienced it. There are constant reminders, in Germany, of the War and it's long lasting effects. It's not something that simply vanishes in a few generations.
Look at it this way, as victors, we constantly extol the virtues of our Greatest Generation... the War DEFINED them, and us. As the vanquished, Germans are constantly reminded of the evil regime their forefathers participated in. They also, are defined by the conflict.

 

[whiskeytangofoxtrot]

I enjoy watching Nigel Farage making these people cry, nice to see Trump doing it as well. They need it.

 

[BugI02]

Yessss. When pushed to put up or shut up on the 2% of GDP, she decides that Germany may have to look elsewhere for [STRIKE]someone to foot the bill[/STRIKE] its future security

 

[BugI02]

What, no Kipling yet

 

[churchmouse]

Yessss. When pushed to put up or shut up on the 2% of GDP, she decides that Germany may have to look elsewhere for [STRIKE]someone to foot the bill[/STRIKE] its future security

Wish we could get by on 2%

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I know I get yelled at for using a foreign language on INGO, but it seems appropriate here:

Tragen Sie Ihre eigene Last, Brunhilde.

 

[Route 45]

I would wager that he is suggesting that the way Germans view their history is a supercharged version of how leftists are trying to get white folks in the USA to feel about their own history.

Uber alles in der veld is not very politically correct. White guilt is very politically correct.

Somebody gets it.

"White guilt?" What in the hell are you talking about?

Take as needed for hyperventilation.

 

[Cygnus]

Has anyone considered this?

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...6FDAA4E6435B4EE06B1E6FDAA4E6435B4EE&FORM=VIRE

 

[T.Lex]

I certainly understand the invective about how America subsidizes other countries. I share some of it.

At the same time, I also recall a different trope. Something something hanging together something hanging separately.

 

[Expat]

I got to hear a few minutes of Rush today. He said she sounds like a kid whose parents have told to support himself instead of living off them any longer.

 

[T.Lex]

Y'all do realize she's talking about more than just money, right?

Right?

Germany's economy (GDP) is projected to be #4 (behind the US, China, and Japan). With the exit of the UK (#5), Germany is basically supporting the EU, economically.

Now, they've built that economy with the help of a subsidized military system (NATO). But, Merkel's comments go beyond that. They can modify the budgets to maintain their military (money's fungible, so it'll really be a test for the partial-socialization culture that Europe adopted). Their lack of reliance on us is more about a fundamental shift away from an American hegemony.

 

[miguel]

I'd tell the old bag to learn Russian, but she already knows it.

Then again, she should probably learn Arabic.

 

[Kutnupe14]

So I take it everyone is all for our American military presence to leave Germany?

 

[T.Lex]

So I take it everyone is all for our American military presence to leave Germany?

Only if it shifts to the Ukraine.

 

[indiucky]

Tragen Sie Ihre eigene Last, Brunhilde.

Harleyrider??? Is that you???

 

[GIJEW]

So I take it everyone is all for our American military presence to leave Germany?

?? I thought the discussion was about telling Merkel where to get off, for complaining about Germany having to pay it's share of NATO dues?

But since you asked, if it wasn't for putin behaving a little like a certain german back in 1938 threatening and annexing parts of other countries, I might consider it.

 

[T.Lex]

Harleyrider??? Is that you???

^^^ That's funny right there.

Alas, the rep faschistisch tell me I have to spread it around the other NATO members before sending some your way again.

 

[jamil]

I certainly understand the invective about how America subsidizes other countries. I share some of it.

At the same time, I also recall a different trope. Something something hanging together something hanging separately.

You sir, have a filthy mind.


Or maybe I do.

 

[jamil]

So I take it everyone is all for our American military presence to leave Germany?

Well, we're not there specifically for the aid of Germany. It IS a strategic location in the interest of the United States. I suppose there could be at least a little protective quid pro quo. Not to the point where they spend less than 1% of their GDP for their own protection though. I think they should be prepared to protect themselves. Maybe the world changes where the strategic value of having bases there is less than the cost of protecting Germany.

 

[Twangbanger]

So I take it everyone is all for our American military presence to leave Germany?

Yeah - tell the Red Passport Boys the swamp is just fine. They can come home, join La Resistance and leak sxxt to the media with their buds...