Michigan CPL Holder Fires Upon Shoplifter Fleeing Home Depot: Justified?

[Lil Bob]

This is an example of why people need training - when to get involved and when not to. Bad decision on the part of the CCL holder. These are the examples that we all need to hear about and learn from.

 

[EdC]

This is an example of why people need training - when to get involved and when not to. Bad decision on the part of the CCL holder. These are the examples that we all need to hear about and learn from.

I would add that "just because you can, doesn't mean you should." Michigan has a fleeing felon law, upheld by the MI Supremes, and distinguishing the SCOTUS decision regarding LEO's. What the woman did as not per se illegal under MI law. However, as always, "reasonableness under the circumstances" will control, and that's probably why they are still deciding whether or not to charge the woman. Here's a link to a nice summary:
Michigan Rules for Arrest, Advice to Gun Owners

As for me, I would never put myself at risk by using deadly force to stop a shoplifter stealing from a box store. So much could go wrong.

 

[chipbennett]

This is an example of why people need training - when to get involved and when not to. Bad decision on the part of the CCL holder. These are the examples that we all need to hear about and learn from.

No, this is an example of why some people should educate themselves. It is not a reason that all people need training. People who care to know, will learn on their own. People who don't, won't be helped by mandatory training.

Ultimately, this is an example of why people should be held responsible for their own actions.

 

[BigMoose]

Well this IS Detroit..... services there are so underfunded and spread so thin, someone probably got tired of it and took matters into their own hands. (not that I condone it)

Now if this was the upper peninsula, this wouldn't be in the news. There are towns up there that everyone is a deputy they are so small.

 

[Lil Bob]

No, this is an example of why some people should educate themselves. It is not a reason that all people need training. People who care to know, will learn on their own. People who don't, won't be helped by mandatory training.

Ultimately, this is an example of why people should be held responsible for their own actions.

Agreed - people should be held accountable for their actions. I am a firm believer in that. However, when people act stupid with guns, it reflects negatively on all of us. We do not need to give the anti-gunners any more ammunition to push their agenda.

 

[chipbennett]

Agreed - people should be held accountable for their actions. I am a firm believer in that. However, when people act stupid with guns, it reflects negatively on all of us. We do not need to give the anti-gunners any more ammunition to push their agenda.

No. No it does not. It reflects poorly on the person who acted. There are 100,000,000 law-abiding gun owners in this country, some 10-15 million of whom have carry licenses (or who carry constitutionally). Among them, the crime rate is the lowest of any other demographic.

We need to stop letting the other side define the narrative.

 

[JollyMon]

Clarkston woman charged after firing gun at Home Depot in Auburn Hills, Michigan

 

[Scout]

First I'm going to say "I wonder what was stolen" and then I'm going to follow up with "have you ever seen how much good inventory they trash?"

 

[Scout]

No. No it does not. It reflects poorly on the person who acted. There are 100,000,000 law-abiding gun owners in this country, some 10-15 million of whom have carry licenses (or who carry constitutionally). Among them, the crime rate is the lowest of any other demographic.

We need to stop letting the other side define the narrative.

You say that. Gun grabbers say "Look how reckless they are! They think they are a bunch of Rambos!"