Minutemen Rifle

[MinuteManMike]

Come on. I'm guessing about the average INGO resident but I guess that most of us live in cities or suburbs and any AR capable of 300 yards is more than sufficient. Hell, for most, a shotgun with slugs and a red dot would suffice to hit most targets.

 

[Cameramonkey]

It would be interesting to know what everyone would use for comms as they link up.

FRS channel 1. Duh!

 

[teddy12b]

It would be interesting to know what everyone would use for comms as they link up.

From what I've seen on youtube and pictures of people at riots whether it's blm/antifa or local people showing up to prevent damage to property it seems like the Baofeng UV-5R will be the next unofficial sponsor of both sides for the next crisis. Currently $20 ish on amazon. You can and should buy them by the half dozen.

 

[TWalker]

From what I've seen on youtube and pictures of people at riots whether it's blm/antifa or local people showing up to prevent damage to property it seems like the Baofeng UV-5R will be the next unofficial sponsor of both sides for the next crisis. Currently $20 ish on amazon. You can and should buy them by the half dozen.

I have a few UV-5R. Working on getting my tech license.

 

[Tombs]

Come on. I'm guessing about the average INGO resident but I guess that most of us live in cities or suburbs and any AR capable of 300 yards is more than sufficient. Hell, for most, a shotgun with slugs and a red dot would suffice to hit most targets.

I've met quite a few people who believe they need a 24 power scope and 6.5 creedmoor to shoot 500 yards, and think 308 can't make it out there.

So it's no surprise a lot of folks think 5.56 isn't going to work out to 300.

 

[MinuteManMike]

I know for a fact .308 can reach out to 1000 yards with iron sighs in daylight.

 

[Ark]

I've met quite a few people who believe they need a 24 power scope and 6.5 creedmoor to shoot 500 yards, and think 308 can't make it out there.

So it's no surprise a lot of folks think 5.56 isn't going to work out to 300.

If you watch Henry and 9 Hole Reviews, there are a bunch of calibers that can push way out there with even low magnification or irons. The limiting factor is often just seeing the target.

But 5.56 and x39 definitely begin to transition to "beaten zone" by 500, along with the velocity loss.

 

[wcd]

Come on. I'm guessing about the average INGO resident but I guess that most of us live in cities or suburbs and any AR capable of 300 yards is more than sufficient. Hell, for most, a shotgun with slugs and a red dot would suffice to hit most targets.

Dang hate o be the outlier but no city slicker life for me.

 

[pmbiker]

Dang hate o be the outlier but no city slicker life for me.

Ditto here. Had to change my defensive thinking when I moved out of town.

 

[teddy12b]

There's plenty of calibers that'll reach a 1,000 yards. Honestly, the days of that being a big deal are kind of over. 15 years ago 1,000 yards was a bucket list opportunity for most shooters to ever get a chance to shoot that far and now it's not all that uncommon. The technology in scopes, ammo, bipods and everything else have turned your average guy into a marksman with some real opportunity for distance with very minimal effort. How all that matches up for a "minuteman" application is up to the user, but I go to matches where I see some very patriotic guys that have next to zero physical ability left, but would be terrifying from a distance if you weren't on their good side. Adjust the tactics to suit the fight you'd prefer in your own situation.

I should add that I'm glad I live in a world where we don't have to worry about our government and having to apply such thoughts to anything resembling our day to day lives. My government loves me, always does the right thing, and is here to help.

 

[two70]

Barrel length is shooters choice, as is ammo.

The 77gr MK262 ammo, was developed for the MK12 platform, because it performs much better at the desired distance than 55 or 62gr ammo. I’ll take every edge I can get in a gun fight. But again, shooters choice.

Ballistically you have to get beyond 500 yards before the heavier bullet weights have an advantage. Unless the opponent has a shorter ranged cartridge, intentionally getting in a gun fight beyond 500 yards with 5.56 seems like a losing proposition regardless of bullet weight and if the opponent does have a shorter ranged cartridge, I doubt it matters enough to worry about. In a minute man situation, there'd be little reason to restrict one's ammo selection to FMJ, so no reason to choose heavy 5.56 ammo for the marginal increase in terminal performance.

I agree about taking every edge I can get but there's no such thing as a free lunch, there's always tradeoffs one has to make. I'd rather pick my advantages to better cover the 80% scenario than to focus it on the other 20%.

 

[Tombs]

If you watch Henry and 9 Hole Reviews, there are a bunch of calibers that can push way out there with even low magnification or irons. The limiting factor is often just seeing the target.

But 5.56 and x39 definitely begin to transition to "beaten zone" by 500, along with the velocity loss.

The funny thing to me is that subsonics have more range, in theory, than smaller rifle cartridges.

9mm in 147gr flavor can be accurate out to 1000 yards and beyond if kept subsonic. 5.56 can get there with the right bullet that transitions gracefully to subsonic, but 7.62x39mm is approaching a lost cause.

That said for standard ball, I put the range on 5.56 at 75-120 yards, because of the fragmentation window. It gets feeling very anemic on steel at 300, to the point that 9mm sounds like it's hitting harder.

If you want to see some impressive shooting:

 

[Hop]

My minute man kit is the same as my RnG kit. It varies a bit event to event.

 

[BJHay]

INGO is loaded with aficionados, gun snobs, and connoisseurs.
For the common man, any $500 rack-grade AR with good range ammo would be fine.

 

[snapping turtle]

My minute man kit is the same as my RnG kit. It varies a bit event to event.
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That's a nice bubble bath.

 

[bashMOH]

For the common man, any $500 rack-grade AR with good range ammo would be fine.

If we are using the example in the OP, then I agree. As long as it isn't a glorified paperweight, an AR with good ammo and you're set. If we are using the historic minuteman, then I think we would need to get in the weeds of small unit compositions. Everyone would still work off the AR platform, but you'd have team leaders, designated marksmen, SAW (or as close as we can get), drone operators, etc. They would all have different skills and different kit

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I watched interesting video on the "topic" over the weekend.

 

[FN USA]

INGO is loaded with aficionados, gun snobs, and connoisseurs.
For the common man, any $500 rack-grade AR with good range ammo would be fine.

As one of those self proclaimed gun connoisseurs, I'd agree that any budget AR with bulk grade ammo would be sufficient to cause a racquet. I live out in the country so I personally would use a 16" barrel. For you city slickers one of those "pistol" ARs would do the job.

 

[Ark]

As one of those self proclaimed gun connoisseurs, I'd agree that any budget AR with bulk grade ammo would be sufficient to cause a racquet. I live out in the country so I personally would use a 16" barrel. For you city slickers one of those "pistol" ARs would do the job.

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I think stubby little guns are overrated. Ain't nothing wrong with 16" at all.

 

[rosejm]

I think stubby little guns are overrated.

It's a different vibe when you're swingin' 'em around in the back seat.