The Chechens would get into a building, frag the top floor so a helo couldn't land, get the ground troops in and detonate the bottom floor to then start fighting through the floors, ceilings, and walls...I've got that here somewhere...
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The Chechens would get into a building, frag the top floor so a helo couldn't land, get the ground troops in and detonate the bottom floor to then start fighting through the floors, ceilings, and walls...I've got that here somewhere...
Excerpts from Lessons Learned from the battle for Grozny.
The proliferation of rocket propelled grenade launchers surprised them, as well as the diversity of uses to which they were put. RPGs were shot at everything that moved. They were fired at high angle over low buildings and from around buildings with little or no attempt made to aim. They were sometimes fired in very disciplined volleys and were the weapon of choice for the Chechens, along with the sniper rifle. Not only were the Russians faced with well-trained, well equipped Chechen military snipers, there were also large numbers of designated marksmen who were very good shots using standard military rifles. These were very hard to deal with and usually required massive firepower to overcome.
Ambushes were common. Sometimes they actually had three tiers. Chechens would be underground, on the ground floor, and on the roof. Each group had a different task in the ambush.
The most common response by the Chechens to the increasingly powerful Russian indirect and aerial firepower was hugging the Russian unit. If the hugging tactics caused the Russians to cease artillery and air fires, it became a man-to-man fight and the Chechens were well equipped to win it. If they didn’t cease the supporting fires, the Russian units suffered just as much as the Chechen fighters did, sometimes even more, and the morale effect was much worse on the Russians.
Chechens weren’t afraid of tanks and BMPs. They assigned groups of RPG gunners to fire volleys at the lead and trail vehicles. Once they were destroyed, the others were picked off, one-by-one. The Russian forces lost 20 of 26 tanks, 102 of 120 BMPs, and 6 of 6 ZSU-23s in the first three days of fighting. Chechens chose firing positions high enough or low enough to stay out of the fields of fire of the tank and BMP weapons. Russian conscript infantry simply refused to dismount and often died in their BMP without ever firing a shot. Russian elite infantry did much better, but didn’t coordinate well with armored vehicles initially.
Chechens were brutish, especially with prisoners. (Some reports say the Russians were no better, but most say the Chechens were the worst of the two sides.) Whoever was at fault, the battle degenerated quickly to one of “no quarter asked, none given.” Russian wounded and dead were hung upside down in windows of defended Chechen positions. Russians had to shoot at the bodies to engage the Chechens. Russian prisoners were decapitated and at night their heads were placed on stakes beside roads leading into the city, over which Russian replacements and reinforcements had to travel. Both Russian and Chechen dead were routinely booby-trapped.
Now that's some fun right there...
Their use of armor in an Urban environment...especially Russian Armor that has little ability to elevate or suppress the main gun...was short sighted. I'm sure the lesson will be lost on them.
The proliferation of rocket propelled grenade launchers surprised them, as well as the diversity of uses to which they were put. RPGs were shot at everything that moved. They were fired at high angle over low buildings and from around buildings with little or no attempt made to aim. They were sometimes fired in very disciplined volleys and were the weapon of choice for the Chechens, along with the sniper rifle. Not only were the Russians faced with well-trained, well equipped Chechen military snipers, there were also large numbers of designated marksmen who were very good shots using standard military rifles. These were very hard to deal with and usually required massive firepower to overcome.
Ambushes were common. Sometimes they actually had three tiers. Chechens would be underground, on the ground floor, and on the roof. Each group had a different task in the ambush.
The most common response by the Chechens to the increasingly powerful Russian indirect and aerial firepower was hugging the Russian unit. If the hugging tactics caused the Russians to cease artillery and air fires, it became a man-to-man fight and the Chechens were well equipped to win it. If they didn’t cease the supporting fires, the Russian units suffered just as much as the Chechen fighters did, sometimes even more, and the morale effect was much worse on the Russians.
Chechens weren’t afraid of tanks and BMPs. They assigned groups of RPG gunners to fire volleys at the lead and trail vehicles. Once they were destroyed, the others were picked off, one-by-one. The Russian forces lost 20 of 26 tanks, 102 of 120 BMPs, and 6 of 6 ZSU-23s in the first three days of fighting. Chechens chose firing positions high enough or low enough to stay out of the fields of fire of the tank and BMP weapons. Russian conscript infantry simply refused to dismount and often died in their BMP without ever firing a shot. Russian elite infantry did much better, but didn’t coordinate well with armored vehicles initially.
Chechens were brutish, especially with prisoners. (Some reports say the Russians were no better, but most say the Chechens were the worst of the two sides.) Whoever was at fault, the battle degenerated quickly to one of “no quarter asked, none given.” Russian wounded and dead were hung upside down in windows of defended Chechen positions. Russians had to shoot at the bodies to engage the Chechens. Russian prisoners were decapitated and at night their heads were placed on stakes beside roads leading into the city, over which Russian replacements and reinforcements had to travel. Both Russian and Chechen dead were routinely booby-trapped.
Now that's some fun right there...
Their use of armor in an Urban environment...especially Russian Armor that has little ability to elevate or suppress the main gun...was short sighted. I'm sure the lesson will be lost on them.
Interesting - some of that I'd heard/read about. The volleys of RPGs at the lead/tail vehicles has been pretty standard among the Chechens and Chechen expatriots fighting in other theaters. After Beslan, I'm certain there was no interest in hearts and minds. And frankly, the regional despots haven't really helped.
Kirk Freeman
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It definitely pays to read the article. From the title on the link my first question was: Did they discover his dead body on the moon?
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