Navy to go retro with its destroyers

[Brad69]

Looks like the Navy is suffers from the same thing the Army does ?
In the early 90’s we were told to take all the ring mounts for .50’s off all the support trucks and throw them in the scrap mental bin.
You will never need them warfare is too fast now we overran the Iraqi Army in a few days we will never fight a war that requires ammo and fuel trucks to be armed.
In 2003 the Army was requesting the National Guard send ring mounts off the old trucks to the Regular Army it seems ammo and fuel trucks needed to be armed again.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...t-may-have-to-sink-ships-again-in-the-future/

 

[actaeon277]

Looks like the Navy is suffers from the same thing the Army does ?
In the early 90’s we were told to take all the ring mounts for .50’s off all the support trucks and throw them in the scrap mental bin.
You will never need them warfare is too fast now we overran the Iraqi Army in a few days we will never fight a war that requires ammo and fuel trucks to be armed.
In 2003 the Army was requesting the National Guard send ring mounts off the old trucks to the Regular Army it seems ammo and fuel trucks needed to be armed again.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...t-may-have-to-sink-ships-again-in-the-future/

Classic case of "New is Better" and then finding out, maybe not.
The military has to walk a fine line.
Ignore technology, and you're fighting tanks with arrows.
Worship technology, and you're overpriced stuff fails.

 

[Kutnupe14]

So it would seem that there are definitely limits to how a human interacts with SkyNet.

+1 that's how the Cylons took down the colonies.

 

[Wolfhound]

Restore the Iowa's and rollout a new version of the Montanas.

I think Leadeye should be running the Navy.

 

[Dead Duck]

Looks like the Navy is suffers from the same thing the Army does ?
In the early 90’s we were told to take all the ring mounts for .50’s off all the support trucks and throw them in the scrap mental bin.
You will never need them warfare is too fast now we overran the Iraqi Army in a few days we will never fight a war that requires ammo and fuel trucks to be armed.
In 2003 the Army was requesting the National Guard send ring mounts off the old trucks to the Regular Army it seems ammo and fuel trucks needed to be armed again.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...t-may-have-to-sink-ships-again-in-the-future/

My Suburban just needs ONE Turret Ring..... JUST ONE......

 

[churchmouse]

+1 that's how the Cylons took down the colonies.

By your command.

 

[Thor]

Touch screens can be 'iffy' in a tactical environment. One spot hit multiple times in any sequence, hands vs gloves and possible chem gear...there can be many issues when you really need something to respond right now.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Looks like the Navy is suffers from the same thing the Army does ?
In the early 90’s we were told to take all the ring mounts for .50’s off all the support trucks and throw them in the scrap mental bin.
You will never need them warfare is too fast now we overran the Iraqi Army in a few days we will never fight a war that requires ammo and fuel trucks to be armed.
In 2003 the Army was requesting the National Guard send ring mounts off the old trucks to the Regular Army it seems ammo and fuel trucks needed to be armed again.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...t-may-have-to-sink-ships-again-in-the-future/

Big Blue said Fighters didn't need guns in the early 60s and dogfighting was a thing of the past. Then we got into Vietnam with dogfights and needed Fighters with guns. The F-35 has a gun, with 180 rounds. Out of an M-61 that's about three seconds.

 

[Thor]

Back when the F-16 was in development the initial prototypes had a pressure sensitive stick that didn't move. Some engineers thought that was a great idea because the controls are all electric anyway...next generation stuff! Then pilots got in and said...ummm...NO stick must move!

 

[JettaKnight]

Well, they finally decided the LCS project (Littoral Combat Ship) was a failure.
Bringing back frigates.

In my systems engineering classes the LCS was an example of how not to do it.

 

[actaeon277]

In my systems engineering classes the LCS was an example of how not to do it.

It was a system that was designed from the ground up, maintained, and operated by those with no understanding that Navy Ships Must Go IN HARM'S WAY.
Not to say the crew believed that. But the way the crew was organized... ugh.

The Navy DOES need to look at innovation.
But, they can't just throw stuff out willy/nilly.

 

[Spike Jones 5 2002]

Back when I was in the Air Force.
I watched a Crew Chief twisting all the gauges.
When I asked him what and why.
He said, When everything is running great.
All the needles are in the same place.
If I see a needle not in the right place.
I know something is going wrong.
I do not have to know what every gauge should be reading.

I have been wondering how or what they crew chiefs do with digital interments.
They must rely on alarms to sound.
Which is generally TO LATE.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Back when I was in the Air Force.
I watched a Crew Chief twisting all the gauges.
When I asked him what and why.
He said, When everything is running great.
All the needles are in the same place.
If I see a needle not in the right place.
I know something is going wrong.
I do not have to know what every gauge should be reading.

I have been wondering how or what they crew chiefs do with digital interments.
They must rely on alarms to sound.
Which is generally TO LATE.

Was this before or after something on the aircraft was struck by a hammer by the Crew Chief?

 

[churchmouse]

Was this before or after something on the aircraft was struck by a hammer by the Crew Chief?

We did the same thing in race cars before the dash boards went full digital
A mere glance from the driver was all that's needed. Needles straight up or close and carry on. Way to easy to clock the gauges.

 

[Thor]

And now they are doubling down on retro...no more new hull designs just bigger and better guns (missiles, lasers etc).

https://news.usni.org/2019/08/13/na...8.14.19&utm_term=Editorial - Early Bird Brief

 

[ATOMonkey]

Now, if they would just send ships into harms way at all.

Naval aircraft launch from so far out, that they have to be re-fueled twice each sortie.

It's a very risk averse Navy.

 

[Thor]

It is a conundrum that has been around since the battleship. The ship costs so much you can't afford to lose it but it's worthless unless you're willing risk doing so.

 

[Dead Duck]

Even if they do go all digital and touch screen, rest assured there is always a way around it to keep in control of the ship and the firing systems.

I'm somewhat of an expert on the subject.... I watch every episode of "The Last Ship".

 

[Leadeye]

I was never a sailor but I think I would like the idea of a lot of steel between me and the bad stuff.

 

[Spike Jones 5 2002]

Was this before or after something on the aircraft was struck by a hammer by the Crew Chief?

I do not know how to answer a intelligent question like this.