NCIC/LTCH Question

[Pitbullguy81]

Last night I was pulled over for a headlight being out. I have been in trouble before so I thought he was going to try and ask a bunch of questions and keep me there for awhile. When I took my DL out, a No Gun=No $ card fell out (I think he might of seen it). I was surprised that he didn't ask about my record or ask about guns, didn't even ask where I was going or coming from. He just gave me a warning citation, told me to get it fixed asap and to have a nice night. When I got home I was looking at the citation and seen that he checked "yes" on a record check and a NCIC check.

My roommate said that they only do a NCIC check if a record check shows that you have an LTCH. Is this true?

I'm asking because I applied for my LTCH (Oct.11) but I have NOT received it yet.

 

[Dobber]

False. I listen to multiple local jurisdictions daily (South Bend, SJSO, ECSO, EPD, Mishawaka) and they generally run NCIC on anyone that has any charge excluding traffic, LTCH if it shows, and officer request (fishing). I was under the impression that LTCH registered on local but have heard several stops where the officer requested LTCH be added to the record. Perhaps in those cases the LTCH was acquired in a different municipality but who knows.

-Dobber

 

[KW730]

They would have no idea that you were in the process of getting your LTCH.

 

[qwerty]

NCIC checks are automatically generated when an inquiry is made against a drivers license.

 

[Jmoreland287]

When we give your information to the dispatcher they are doing an NCIC check on it. When they run it through IDACS ( Indiana Data and Communication Systems) it automatically runs an NCIC warrant check. LTCH can be checked separately if you have one it should come up attached to your file on the PDT in the car or on the dispatchers screen. Your roommate in this case would be wrong. It's done every time your name is run.

 

[qwerty]

If you run by Name and DOB in Indiana (KQ or DQ), it will query the CWR and return LTCH records automatically. If you run by OLN, it will not query the CWR database, jut FYI if you want to save a few steps.

 

[Jmoreland287]

Im still in my FTO in Indiana LOL can you tell?!

 

[shootersix]

I'm asking because I applied for my LTCH (Oct.11) but I have NOT received it yet.

wow, are the state police THAT backed up on ltch's? 15 month's? i think i'd call the state police? that dont sound right!

either that or you've been denied and they didnt tell you.

 

[danielson]

Ive been waiting since Nov 16th

 

[cmj]

wow, are the state police THAT backed up on ltch's? 15 month's? i think i'd call the state police? that dont sound right!

either that or you've been denied and they didnt tell you.

OP Most likely means 11OCT2012

 

[Pitbullguy81]

wow, are the state police THAT backed up on ltch's? 15 month's? i think i'd call the state police? that dont sound right!

either that or you've been denied and they didnt tell you.

Sorry...... Oct.11 2012 is when I applied. 3 1/2 months ago

 

[Dobber]

When we give your information to the dispatcher they are doing an NCIC check on it. When they run it through IDACS ( Indiana Data and Communication Systems) it automatically runs an NCIC warrant check. LTCH can be checked separately if you have one it should come up attached to your file on the PDT in the car or on the dispatchers screen.

Sorry to jack the thread, but my question does pertain. Your comment suggests that you personally submit driver/assailant/perpetrator/personal data to a dispatcher for processing. If an NCIC check is automatic why do officers specifically request the results of an NCIC check? I am a HAM operator and listen to my local frequencies daily. Very often I'll hear field officers request "NCIC Check" or ask "Did anything come back on NCIC?"

Are the officers not confident in the dispatcher's abilities to read a screen or are these checks not necessarily automatic but *most* dispatchers run them automatically?

-Dobber

 

[qwerty]

Sorry to jack the thread, but my question does pertain. Your comment suggests that you personally submit driver/assailant/perpetrator/personal data to a dispatcher for processing. If an NCIC check is automatic why do officers specifically request the results of an NCIC check? I am a HAM operator and listen to my local frequencies daily. Very often I'll hear field officers request "NCIC Check" or ask "Did anything come back on NCIC?"

Are the officers not confident in the dispatcher's abilities to read a screen or are these checks not necessarily automatic but *most* dispatchers run them automatically?

-Dobber

The check is automatic. You can run an NCIC check alone but can not run a DL alone, it will always trigger an NCIC check on the query as long as NCIC is up and running (if you run a DL number it will do an NCIC check on that number, if you run name and DOB, it will do an NCIC check on that info).

Some officers do not know the process or did not pay attention in their MDT class otherwise they would not ask.

 

[lon]

If you run by Name and DOB Date of Birth in Indiana (KQ or DQ), it will query the CWR and return LTCH License to Carry records automatically. If you run by OLN, it will not query the CWR database, jut FYI For your info if you want to save a few steps.

For us non-cops, Please spell out rest of the acronyms.

TIA

 

[qwerty]

For us non-cops, Please spell out rest of the acronyms.

TIA

The KQ and DQ are commands/screens used to run a person in the system. DQ is a driver's license query, KQ is the same but with a history (tickets, suspensions, address changes). Both also query other databases as well, NCIC, etc.

CWR is command/screen for the LTCH database.

OLN is operators license number.