Once the rut comes in the game totally changes. Anything that you learn this week is almost useless come first week of Nov. Find the trails, creeks, streams and you will see deer when it comes hunting season. Find the narrow choke points that join cover. The thick stuff is where they are at night. Catch them on there way to that an hour before sundown. Game totalls changes when there has been a full moon out that allows the deer to eat til they are blue in the face at night...all night long.