NY has begun to confiscate!

[japartridge]

I quickly searched on this and didn't see any dupes. I've been reading the AmmoLand stuff for awhile, and they [STRIKE]are[/STRIKE] seem to be legit...

And so it begins:

NY Gun Confiscation Underway - Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms

 

[jgreiner]

The fascism continues in the blue states.

 

[drillsgt]

Shouldn't take long to track down who was illegally forwarding protected medical information. One of the posters made a good point, what about those police who may be taking medication as well?

 

[HeadlessRoland]

"History has shown us that government leaders often ignore the fundamental fact that people
demand both dignity and freedom. Because of this disregard, these decision-makers then initiate
acts that are ultimately self-destructive. To illustrate this point I will remind the reader of the origin
of two of modern history's most destructive events, and of all the warning flags that were frantically
waving while the instigators rushed headlong towards the abyss.

In the late 19th and very early 20th centuries, European leaders formed two major alliances.
Germany, Austria, and Italy comprised one coalition, and Britain, France, and Russia the other.
Belgium remained neutral per an 1839 treaty signed by all of these nations except Italy.
The smaller European countries became indirectly involved in the two aforementioned alliances.
One such example was Serbia, a country Russia had pledged to aid in the event of war between
Serbia and Austria. Despite Russia's presence, Austria annexed a large part of Serbia,
a province called Bosnia, in 1908.

Few people remain emotionally indifferent when their culture and country are taken over
by an aggressor, and the Bosnian Serbs were no exception. Many Bosnians despised
the government that had chilled their independence. In spite of this obvious fact,
the Austrian leaders sent an archduke to the capital of Bosnia to survey the people
Austria now ruled. This archduke was resplendent in full military ceremonial dress,
festooned with medals and other military decorations, and accompanied by his elegantly-dressed
wife. An objective observer might at this point have said, "Stripping motivated people of their dignity
and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea."

Archduke Ferdinand and his wife arrived in Sarajevo in an open vehicle, and the
only protection either of them had was their chauffeur. This man was expected to drive the car
and at the same time protect the Archduke and his wife with only a six-shot revolver
he carried in an enclosed holster, and no spare ammunition. Our theoretical observer might
here have said, "This is a recipe for disaster."

Almost as soon as the Archduke and his wife arrived in Sarajevo, a Serbian National
tossed a bomb under their car. Its fuse was defective and the bomb did not explode.
Here, our observer might have advised, "A miracle happened. Go home. Now. Immediately."

Despite this obvious wake-up call, the Royal Couple shrugged off the assassination attempt
and continued their tour of the Bosnian capital. Later that same day, a second Serbian National
shot them with his .32, killing them both. The Austrian leaders blamed the Serbian government
for the assassination and demanded a virtual protectorate over Serbia, issuing Serbia a list
of demands. Serbia acceded to all but one of Austria's stipulations. Here, our observer might
have said to Austria's leaders, "Russia has pledged to aid Serbia in any war with you,
and Russia has both powerful allies and powerful adversaries. Serbia has agreed to almost
everything you demanded. Settle, and avoid a world war." Instead, Austria shelled Serbia's
capital with artillery fire.

Our observer might here have told Russia's leaders, "Serbia is not worth starting a world war over,"
but Russia honored its commitment to Serbia and mobilized its army, sending troops to the
Russian-Austrian border. Since this left Russia vulnerable to attack from Austria's ally Germany,
the Russian Army mobilized against Germany as well.

This forced the German Army to mobilize. Since France was allied with Russia, the Germans
feared an attack by France in the west while German troops went east. So Germany decided
to invade France immediately, VIA Belgium. Here, our observer might have said,
"Saying this is your 'destiny' is not going to be good enough, Germany. When you invade
a neutral country and rape their women and slaughter their livestock and burn their houses,
Britain is not going to just look the other way."

When the Germans invaded Belgium, Britain honored its commitment to defend Belgian neutrality,
and declared war on Germany. Every major country in Europe was now at war.

Four years later, over thirty million people were dead, half of them killed directly in the war itself,
and the rest so weakened through shortage of food and medicines that they succumbed
to the influenza epidemic. In addition to the lives lost, the war's monetary cost in 1918
was almost three hundred billion dollars. No sooner had the war ended than the victors demanded
their pound of flesh at the Treaty of Versailles.

The treaty required Germany to accept sole responsibility for causing the war.
It dictated that German military leaders were to be tried as war criminals. It prohibited the German
army from possessing heavy artillery. It abolished the General Staff and the German air force,
and prohibited Germany from producing military aircraft. As in 1914, our observer might have said,
"Stripping motivated people of their dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea."
But if such words were in fact uttered, they fell on deaf ears. A humiliated Germany was ripe
for the nationalist message of Adolf Hitler, and in this fertile soil were planted the seeds
of the Second World War.

Today in America, honest, successful, talented, productive, motivated people are once again
being stripped of their freedom and dignity and having their noses rubbed in it. The conflict
has been building for over half a century, and once again warning flags are frantically waving
while the instigators rush headlong towards the abyss, and their doom.

It is my hope that these people will stop and reverse their course before they reach the point
where such reversal is no longer possible."

- John Ross

"Molon labe!" - Leonidas of Sparta

 

[jwh20]

Shouldn't take long to track down who was illegally forwarding protected medical information. One of the posters made a good point, what about those police who may be taking medication as well?

Sure, but who is going to do that? The Obama administration?

It's clear that NY SAFE Act trumps any HIPAA and/or privacy violations. HIPAA is not even a part of the Constitution. If the authorities in NY give so little regard to the 2A, 4A, and 5A, what is a meaningless little thing like HIPAA.

Remember, this is all about keeping the children safe.

Repeat to yourself, "no sacrifice is too great for the children."

 

[roisigns]

 

[NumberCruncher]

The obvious insanity in all of this idiotic debate is that no law ever written will prevent a lunatic from attacking anyone with whatever weapon he/she may choose.

The ONLY way to make someplace safer is to have countermeasures when the lunatic chooses to attack. Pure and simple.

 

[Constructionist]

The information in the article is invaluable, and I'm glad it's being disseminated. However, I wish this site and others like it would hire proof readers and/or editors. Grammatical and punctuation errors only supply more ammunition to the antis that we are all uneducated, inbred hicks clinging to our God and guns. I don't claim to have perfect grammar or punctuation, and don't expect it from fellow forum members. But when articles like this one are shared (as they should be) they lose some credibility when they sound so unprofessional. Still, I'm glad the information is being put out there.

*flame suit on*

 

[K_W]

Or... perfect cases for Supreme court.

 

[jwh20]

Grammatical and punctuation errors only supply more ammunition to the antis that we are all uneducated, inbred hicks clinging to our God and guns.

Hey! I resemble that remark!

I'd much rather be an "uneducated inbred hick" than a "Joe Biden" for instance.

 

[Classic]

This will certainly have a "chilling effect" on a NY firearms owner regarding seeking any mental health treatment.

 

[Constructionist]

Hey! I resemble that remark!

I'd much rather be an "uneducated inbred hick" than a "Joe Biden" for instance.

Oh me too

I just know how libtards think and act. They'll seize on any opportunity, no matter how ludicrous, to paint us all with their wide brush.

 

[jwh20]

Or... perfect cases for Supreme court.

Don't bet on that!

In the years it would take for any of these to reach the SCOTUS, Mr. Obama will have stacked the court with his like-minded appointees.

Including that "hottie" he referred to last week in Socialist Republic of California.

 

[searpinski]

The information in the article is invaluable, and I'm glad it's being disseminated. However, I wish this site and others like it would hire proof readers and/or editors. Grammatical and punctuation errors only supply more ammunition to the antis that we are all uneducated, inbred hicks clinging to our God and guns. I don't claim to have perfect grammar or punctuation, and don't expect it from fellow forum members. But when articles like this one are shared (as they should be) they lose some credibility when they sound so unprofessional. Still, I'm glad the information is being put out there.

*flame suit on*

I totally agree.

 

[japartridge]

"History has shown us that government leaders often ignore the fundamental fact that people
demand both dignity and freedom. Because of this disregard, these decision-makers then initiate
acts that are ultimately self-destructive. To illustrate this point I will remind the reader of the origin
of two of modern history's most destructive events, and of all the warning flags that were frantically
waving while the instigators rushed headlong towards the abyss.

In the late 19th and very early 20th centuries, European leaders formed two major alliances.
Germany, Austria, and Italy comprised one coalition, and Britain, France, and Russia the other.
Belgium remained neutral per an 1839 treaty signed by all of these nations except Italy.
The smaller European countries became indirectly involved in the two aforementioned alliances.
One such example was Serbia, a country Russia had pledged to aid in the event of war between
Serbia and Austria. Despite Russia's presence, Austria annexed a large part of Serbia,
a province called Bosnia, in 1908.

Few people remain emotionally indifferent when their culture and country are taken over
by an aggressor, and the Bosnian Serbs were no exception. Many Bosnians despised
the government that had chilled their independence. In spite of this obvious fact,
the Austrian leaders sent an archduke to the capital of Bosnia to survey the people
Austria now ruled. This archduke was resplendent in full military ceremonial dress,
festooned with medals and other military decorations, and accompanied by his elegantly-dressed
wife. An objective observer might at this point have said, "Stripping motivated people of their dignity
and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea."

Archduke Ferdinand and his wife arrived in Sarajevo in an open vehicle, and the
only protection either of them had was their chauffeur. This man was expected to drive the car
and at the same time protect the Archduke and his wife with only a six-shot revolver
he carried in an enclosed holster, and no spare ammunition. Our theoretical observer might
here have said, "This is a recipe for disaster."

Almost as soon as the Archduke and his wife arrived in Sarajevo, a Serbian National
tossed a bomb under their car. Its fuse was defective and the bomb did not explode.
Here, our observer might have advised, "A miracle happened. Go home. Now. Immediately."

Despite this obvious wake-up call, the Royal Couple shrugged off the assassination attempt
and continued their tour of the Bosnian capital. Later that same day, a second Serbian National
shot them with his .32, killing them both. The Austrian leaders blamed the Serbian government
for the assassination and demanded a virtual protectorate over Serbia, issuing Serbia a list
of demands. Serbia acceded to all but one of Austria's stipulations. Here, our observer might
have said to Austria's leaders, "Russia has pledged to aid Serbia in any war with you,
and Russia has both powerful allies and powerful adversaries. Serbia has agreed to almost
everything you demanded. Settle, and avoid a world war." Instead, Austria shelled Serbia's
capital with artillery fire.

Our observer might here have told Russia's leaders, "Serbia is not worth starting a world war over,"
but Russia honored its commitment to Serbia and mobilized its army, sending troops to the
Russian-Austrian border. Since this left Russia vulnerable to attack from Austria's ally Germany,
the Russian Army mobilized against Germany as well.

This forced the German Army to mobilize. Since France was allied with Russia, the Germans
feared an attack by France in the west while German troops went east. So Germany decided
to invade France immediately, VIA Belgium. Here, our observer might have said,
"Saying this is your 'destiny' is not going to be good enough, Germany. When you invade
a neutral country and rape their women and slaughter their livestock and burn their houses,
Britain is not going to just look the other way."

When the Germans invaded Belgium, Britain honored its commitment to defend Belgian neutrality,
and declared war on Germany. Every major country in Europe was now at war.

Four years later, over thirty million people were dead, half of them killed directly in the war itself,
and the rest so weakened through shortage of food and medicines that they succumbed
to the influenza epidemic. In addition to the lives lost, the war's monetary cost in 1918
was almost three hundred billion dollars. No sooner had the war ended than the victors demanded
their pound of flesh at the Treaty of Versailles.

The treaty required Germany to accept sole responsibility for causing the war.
It dictated that German military leaders were to be tried as war criminals. It prohibited the German
army from possessing heavy artillery. It abolished the General Staff and the German air force,
and prohibited Germany from producing military aircraft. As in 1914, our observer might have said,
"Stripping motivated people of their dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea."
But if such words were in fact uttered, they fell on deaf ears. A humiliated Germany was ripe
for the nationalist message of Adolf Hitler, and in this fertile soil were planted the seeds
of the Second World War.

Today in America, honest, successful, talented, productive, motivated people are once again
being stripped of their freedom and dignity and having their noses rubbed in it. The conflict
has been building for over half a century, and once again warning flags are frantically waving
while the instigators rush headlong towards the abyss, and their doom.

It is my hope that these people will stop and reverse their course before they reach the point
where such reversal is no longer possible."

- John Ross

"Molon labe!" - Leonidas of Sparta

That is a chillingly accurate description of where we find ourselves! Great read, and thank you for posting it. I'm gravely concerned that this action will be looked back upon in the future as a tipping point!

 

[japartridge]

The information in the article is invaluable, and I'm glad it's being disseminated. However, I wish this site and others like it would hire proof readers and/or editors. Grammatical and punctuation errors only supply more ammunition to the antis that we are all uneducated, inbred hicks clinging to our God and guns. I don't claim to have perfect grammar or punctuation, and don't expect it from fellow forum members. But when articles like this one are shared (as they should be) they lose some credibility when they sound so unprofessional. Still, I'm glad the information is being put out there.

*flame suit on*

In a way I agree... but I wonder if part of this issues were caused by a rush to get it out there...

 

[japartridge]

This will certainly have a "chilling effect" on a NY firearms owner regarding seeking any mental health treatment.

I'd say it will have that effect on any firearms owner!

 

[BogWalker]

Is this the event that James Yeager has been waiting for?

He's hiding in the nearest ditch as we speak.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

I remember an episode of Frontline, which followed several members of a combat unit during part of their time in Iraq and later, as they re-entered civilian life. One of the things that I remember about that program was that (according to them) it was not at all uncommon for combat soldiers in Iraq to be prescribed antidepressant and/or anti anxiety medications while they are on active duty in combat operations.

 

[japartridge]

I remember an episode of Frontline, which followed several members of a combat unit during part of their time in Iraq and later, as they re-entered civilian life. One of the things that I remember about that program was that (according to them) it was not at all uncommon for combat soldiers in Iraq to be prescribed antidepressant and/or anti anxiety medications while they are on active duty in combat operations.

I wonder if that means they'll try to take their guns next?!?