OBAMA: You can put lipstick on a pig . . .

[Hoosier8]

I would like to point out that John McCain used this same addage against the Hillary campaign before party nominations were held. It was not directed at Sarah Palin. Obama was referring to the similarities in policy between Bush and McCain.

I agree. It is bad timing on Obama's part and the audience certainly took it the way it is being portrayed, whether Obama got it or not. As I have stated from the get go with him, he does not do well unless scripted. I have followed him from the beginning of his Senate race in Illinois since I used to live there and my family is still there. Let me state that I am not an Obama fan.

I am curious about something though. The gun owners on INGO can't all be in the McCain camp, can they? I think the majority are due to the 2nd stance that Obama and the left has displayed in the past, but I still wonder? Would they get flamed by posters if they said they were for him?

 

[Justus]

Would they get flamed by posters if they said they were for him?

There's been a couple that said they were for Obama.
None have been Indiana residents that I know of.
The most recent was asked why he was voting for Obama but
didn't answer.

 

[semiauto]

This should clear some things up. Obama accuses McCain campaign of 'lies' - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com. Its like I said before, that line was not a smear directed at Palin.

 

[semiauto]

I agree. It is bad timing on Obama's part and the audience certainly took it the way it is being portrayed, whether Obama got it or not. As I have stated from the get go with him, he does not do well unless scripted. I have followed him from the beginning of his Senate race in Illinois since I used to live there and my family is still there. Let me state that I am not an Obama fan.

I am curious about something though. The gun owners on INGO can't all be in the McCain camp, can they? I think the majority are due to the 2nd stance that Obama and the left has displayed in the past, but I still wonder? Would they get flamed by posters if they said they were for him?

I kinda did, and I don't even live in IN...

 

[Justus]

I kinda did, and I don't even live in IN...

I don't think you got flamed, just had a few comments about the IL water

You did get a question thrown your way on that thread and it's still unanswered.

 

[4sarge]

I kinda did, and I don't even live in IN...

That's good, Illinois has great gun laws for you to enjoy firearms ownership

 

[melensdad]

This should clear some things up. Obama accuses McCain campaign of 'lies' - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com. Its like I said before, that line was not a smear directed at Palin.

Well the Wall Street Journal says exactly the opposite thing that MSNBC says so why should I believe MSNBC?

Further MSNBC fired 2 of its news anchors this week because they were so biased toward Obama in their reporting that Sam Donaldson looks like a conservative.

Further MSNBC has been parodies by Saturday Night Live (and they are owned by the same parent company) because it is so biased in its reporting.

Sorry, but MSNBC has no journalistic credibility as an unbiased source when it is clearly in the tank for Obama.

 

[Paul]

I really dont think obama meant it to be about Palin. The crowd on the other hand took it that way.

 

[semiauto]

That's good, Illinois has great gun laws for you to enjoy firearms ownership

Lol its cool, I only have to be there three months out of the year anyway. And I think last summer may have been my last in IL. However, apparently 9 months out of the year isn't good enough to make me an IN resident... Check my FFL nightmare thread for more info

 

[Justus]

I really dont think obama meant it to be about Palin. The crowd on the other hand took it that way.

Yes and no, the crowd took it that way and Obama knows what
his crowds like to hear.
He just keeps saying these things off the cuff and comes back later
to say that's not what he meant.

 

[semiauto]

Well the Wall Street Journal says exactly the opposite thing that MSNBC says so why should I believe MSNBC?

Further MSNBC fired 2 of its news anchors this week because they were so biased toward Obama in their reporting that Sam Donaldson looks like a conservative.

Further MSNBC has been parodies by Saturday Night Live (and they are owned by the same parent company) because it is so biased in its reporting.

Sorry, but MSNBC has no journalistic credibility as an unbiased source when it is clearly in the tank for Obama.

They weren't fired. They were demoted to keep them from skewing the election coverage. And I could say the same about FOX News... But just for the record http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122105857610019491.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news/
if you'll only read the Wall Street Journal, then there you go.

 

[Justus]

semiauto:

Why in the world do you support Obama?

 

[Paul]

They weren't fired. They were demoted to keep them from skewing the election coverage. And I could say the same about FOX News...

I disagree. I think FOX is fair. They might lean a tad to the right sometimes, but the rest of the media leaning way left with MSNBC leading the way

 

[Hoosier8]

Yes and no, the crowd took it that way and Obama knows what
his crowds like to hear.
He just keeps saying these things off the cuff and comes back later
to say that's not what he meant.

If he has to keep coming back and correcting himself, what does that say about him? Change you can believe in!

I have taken to watching CNN lately and they did a piece today correcting the false allegations about Palin. From what I can see, with the exception of their guests, and one or two reporters, they TRY to be objective even though the natural bias comes through subtly. All-in-all, not having been a fan of CNN in the past, I don't think they have done too badly this round.

 

[semiauto]

Yea, MSNBC is definitely left biased, there's no disputing that. I do think it gets overstated sometimes tho. With regards with my vote for Obama, my primary reason is to get our country out of Iraq asap so we can focus on what's important, our economy. And I would never vote for someone who is skeptical about the cause of global warming with a VP who is as pro big oil as Palin. Not to mention her complete lack of political experience. I don't really see why I need to explain my motivations to vote, I never asked anyone why they are voting republican. In all actuality, I am registered republican. There, I said it, flame on.

 

[melensdad]

They weren't fired. They were demoted to keep them from skewing the election coverage. And I could say the same about FOX News... But just for the record http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122105857610019491.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news/
if you'll only read the Wall Street Journal, then there you go.

Actually they were fired from their news anchor positions and the shows they were on. They are now commentators and still employed by MSNBC but not by the same shows on MSNBC.

As for FOX, anyone who uses only 1 source of news is an idiot. I'm not an idiot.

As for the WSJ, I also quoted an WSJ article.

We can keep pissing on each other over this, but the fact is you are wrong and I am right

 

[Justus]

Not to mention her complete lack of political experience. I don't really see why I need to explain my motivations to vote, I never asked anyone why they are voting republican. In all actuality, I am registered republican. There, I said it, flame on.

You do realize she has as much experience as Obama right?

 

[semiauto]

Actually they were fired from their news anchor positions and the shows they were on. They are now commentators and still employed by MSNBC but not by the same shows on MSNBC.

As for FOX, anyone who uses only 1 source of news is an idiot. I'm not an idiot.

As for the WSJ, I also quoted an WSJ article.

We can keep pissing on each other over this, but the fact is you are wrong and I am right

Who says we're pissing on each other dude? And what do you mean? Right about what?

 

[semiauto]

You do realize she has as much experience as Obama right?

How do you mean?

 

[Justus]

How do you mean?

She is a governor!?