Olin Corp. Military Surplus 9mm thoughts?

[Mosinguy]

Just got a box in trade about twenty minutes ago. Looks like good stuff but how does it perform? The headstamp said 95 so I'd assume it's from 1995. Not worried about age at all, just wanting to know if it's particularly dirty or accurate.

 

[parsimonious]

I've never seen surplus 9 mm. Do you mean contract overrun?

What did you pay for it, what does the box look like?

 

[Mosinguy]

Brown box in the upper left corner. I'd assume it's a contract overrun maybe. It's M882 ammo, not XM882 (rejected ammo).

EDIT: Stock photo from online, not my box but it's the same thing.

 

[Colt556]

Close to WWB I think. I've shot it years ago and don't recall anything special about it.

 

[Mosinguy]

Awesome. I traded a Jennings .22 magazine for it. I can use 9mm regardless of it's performance more than a magazine to a gun I don't own.

EDIT: Isn't the military loading sorta hot?

 

[Fordtough25]

Olin Corp is same as Winchester if I remember correctly. I agree, probably about the same as WWB.

 

[BigMoose]

This is another complicated corporate history thing.

Olin Corp owned Olin Brass and the Western Cartridge Company.
In 1931 they bought Winchester Repeating Arms. In 1980 they spun off the firearms part of Winchester and kept Winchesters ammo business.

The old WCC plant used Olin Branding, and the old WRA ammo plant used Winchester branding.

Now they just use the WCC ammo plant in with the Winchester ammo brand, but the ammo has WCC headstamps.

You will find your box has WCC headstamps.

I would love a close up of the box. Thats the real military issue.

You can buy M882 contract overrun off gun store shelves today, but it's not packaged as such.
It's Winchester 9MM 124grain FMJ Q4318 OR Winchester Ranger RA9124N 9mm NATO 124gr

I have seen it for sale at Dunhams and Dicks.

 

[Mosinguy]

This is another complicated corporate history thing.

Olin Corp owned Olin Brass and the Western Cartridge Company.
In 1931 they bought Winchester Repeating Arms. In 1980 they spun off the firearms part of Winchester and kept Winchesters ammo business.

The old WCC plant used Olin Branding, and the old WRA ammo plant used Winchester branding.

Now they just use the WCC ammo plant in with the Winchester ammo brand, but the ammo has WCC headstamps.

You will find your box has WCC headstamps.

I would love a close up of the box. Thats the real military issue.

You can buy M882 contract overrun off gun store shelves today, but it's not packaged as such.
It's Winchester 9MM 124grain FMJ Q4318 OR Winchester Ranger RA9124N 9mm NATO 124gr

I have seen it for sale at Dunhams and Dicks.

Well unless I could text them to someone who would be kind enough to upload them online that won't happen.

 

[Mosinguy]

Box reads:

50 CARTRIDGES
9mm BALL NATO
M882
Lot WCC95E020-035
OLIN CORPORATION

Box has a foam insert for the ammo. Headstamp is: WCC 95 with a little crosshair above it.
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[Colt556]

Nato Spec 9mm made by Olin/Winchester in 1995. Shoot it and pick up the brass.

 

[Mosinguy]

Nato Spec 9mm made by Olin/Winchester in 1995. Shoot it and pick up the brass.

Isn't there something about military brass that makes it somewhat difficult to reload the first time?

 

[Dsgnr_81]

Isn't there something about military brass that makes it somewhat difficult to reload the first time?

Just run a primer pocket reamer through em and it won't be a problem.

 

[Colt556]

Isn't there something about military brass that makes it somewhat difficult to reload the first time?

Most have a crimped primer. A primer pocket reamer needs to be used for the first reloading.

 

[BigMoose]

I vote that the Olin (WCC) box is real military production.

Pic from Mosinguy

 

[Mosinguy]

So I'm guessing what I've got is relatively uncommon then?

 

[Colt556]

9mm Military Ammo

M882 9mm bullet weight? - Page 2 - CMP Forums

9mm M882 - Handguns and Ammunition Forums

 

[parsimonious]

I thought 9mm nato had a 124 grain fmj. one of the links from colt 556 states
that it is 112 grain.

I have read that 9mm nato is a little hotter than sammi spec.
somewhere between off the shelf 9 and +p.

Any modern pistol, or especially european manufacture can handle it.

maybe not an OLD luger.

Uncommon? I haven't seen it before.

 

[BigMoose]

I thought 9mm nato had a 124 grain fmj. one of the links from colt 556 states
that it is 112 grain.

I have read that 9mm nato is a little hotter than sammi spec.
somewhere between off the shelf 9 and +p.

Any modern pistol, or especially european manufacture can handle it.

maybe not an OLD luger.

Uncommon? I haven't seen it before.

XM882 was 112grain and loaded hot. Blew the slides off some Beretta 92s they were testing.

M882 is standard 124 grain at 1240fps or so. Lugers were fed about the same ammo during WWII.

I have not seen real military issue M882 before. Only the over run.

 

[SSGSAD]

Wasn't Bridgeport Brass, across from the armory on Holt rd., a "maker" of brass casings, for either Win., or Olin ?????

 

[BigMoose]

Wasn't Bridgeport Brass, across from the armory on Holt rd., a "maker" of brass casings, for either Win., or Olin ?????

I think Olin came to own that at one point.