On the fence for uncle Joe?

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    Biden has a 44+ year history of trying to ban guns, from handguns to rifles and magazines. He has said publicly he will make Beto O'rourke his gun czar. Harris has said she will write executive orders banning various guns and magazines. What more does anyone need to know?
     

    joncon

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    Biden has a 44+ year history of trying to ban guns, from handguns to rifles and magazines. He has said publicly he will make Beto O'rourke his gun czar. Harris has said she will write executive orders banning various guns and magazines. What more does anyone need to know?
    He'll also raise your taxes and make gasoline and your utilities increase, empower China again and cost jobs.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    I can't get over the thought process it takes to assume that if you vote for Trump it automatically means you like the guy. I wish people would look at issues at hand instead of attacking people's character. Does Trump do better for the USA than Biden/Harris does. IMHO YES. you either believe in freedom or you don't.
     

    NKBJ

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    Pretending to assume, trying to make out you said something you didn't, attacking the messenger, it happens a lot doesn't it?
     

    MCINDIANA

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    Joe had a real bad today. Said he was running for the Senate. Could not recall Romney's name. Then again he said he's was running as a proud democrat for Senate. It is a crime how the Dems are using Joe to get Harris in. Senior abuse to say the least.
     

    thelefthand

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    I don't see how anyone could be on the fence for uncle Joe. Everything he has proposed has been tried several times throughout the history of the world and has either failed, or is currently in the process of failing. Do I like Trump? Not really. I think he's an arrogant jerk, which is the same opinion I have of most billionaires, but is better than my opinion of most politicians. However, his policies and methods have been extremely successful despite the up hill battle he's had to fight against the House and the media. Similar policies have historically produced similar results around the world. Even if I didn't care about gun control, the choice would be obvious.
     

    Tombs

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    I don't see how anyone could be on the fence for uncle Joe. Everything he has proposed has been tried several times throughout the history of the world and has either failed, or is currently in the process of failing. Do I like Trump? Not really. I think he's an arrogant jerk, which is the same opinion I have of most billionaires, but is better than my opinion of most politicians. However, his policies and methods have been extremely successful despite the up hill battle he's had to fight against the House and the media. Similar policies have historically produced similar results around the world. Even if I didn't care about gun control, the choice would be obvious.

    Even if you oppose nearly every one of Trump's policies, the choice is still obvious. Democrats nominated someone who is in no condition to run this country competently, and we're in very troubled and complex times. In times like this you have to put your feelings aside and do what's best for the country, even if it isn't what you want.
     

    JettaKnight

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    Biden has a 44+ year history of trying to ban guns, from handguns to rifles and magazines. He has said publicly he will make Beto O'rourke his gun czar. Harris has said she will write executive orders banning various guns and magazines. What more does anyone need to know?

    Nothing.


    Which is why all this antifa.com ---> Joe Biden false flag is a bunch of crap that does not make a difference to me.
     

    thelefthand

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    Even if you oppose nearly every one of Trump's policies, the choice is still obvious. Democrats nominated someone who is in no condition to run this country competently, and we're in very troubled and complex times. In times like this you have to put your feelings aside and do what's best for the country, even if it isn't what you want.

    That's a harder argument to make. It's not that I disagree, or that I don't think there's enough evidence to support the statement. It's that Uncle Joe's behavior hasn't changed since the start of the primaries, so the voters must think he's competent enough to hold the office. A person could look at Trumps inability to keep his mouth shut, along with past business dealings and say that he's unfit for office (which they are doing). People made similar accusations against Regan and G.W. Bush. At the end of the day, whether it's Biden making the decisions, or someone pulling his strings, the policies are the same and they are consistent with his voting record for the past 4+ decades. So if a person is against capitalism and for socialism, the mandatory redistribution of wealth, and believes that the government should rule over them, they should vote for Uncle Joe. If, on the other hand, a person believes in law and order, capitalism, freedom, and that the government should work for the people, they should vote for Trump.
     

    Tombs

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    That's a harder argument to make. It's not that I disagree, or that I don't think there's enough evidence to support the statement. It's that Uncle Joe's behavior hasn't changed since the start of the primaries, so the voters must think he's competent enough to hold the office. A person could look at Trumps inability to keep his mouth shut, along with past business dealings and say that he's unfit for office (which they are doing). People made similar accusations against Regan and G.W. Bush. At the end of the day, whether it's Biden making the decisions, or someone pulling his strings, the policies are the same and they are consistent with his voting record for the past 4+ decades. So if a person is against capitalism and for socialism, the mandatory redistribution of wealth, and believes that the government should rule over them, they should vote for Uncle Joe. If, on the other hand, a person believes in law and order, capitalism, freedom, and that the government should work for the people, they should vote for Trump.

    I think it's pretty hard to argue that Trump is unfit for office when we consider how the past 3 and a half years have gone. He went in with the lowest of expectations, and he excelled rather well, even against some of the harshest treatment any president has received. A good chunk of the public thought he wouldn't be able to run the country at all. He's demonstrated that he can, and does. He's also posted some of the best economic gains and quickest recoveries from economic crashes, ever. He's far from perfect, but it's hard to argue that he doesn't do a reasonably decent job.

    As for your comment about the people picking Biden, I would actually debate that point. Go back and watch what voters were saying during the primaries in interviews. It was a mostly unanimous view that they actually wanted Sanders, but they were concerned for his viability so they voted for Biden merely in the interest of trying to win.
    I don't believe they really ever wanted Biden for any policy reason, or because of his character. They wanted him solely because they thought he painted a path to their side winning an election. The individual they really wanted they decided to sideline because they worried that he would have narrow support outside of their party. I'd go as far as to say I honestly believe Trump is closer to Sanders than he is to Biden, and represents many of the same goals supporters of Sanders had, which was uprooting of the status quo, how ever they differ economically to a significant degree.

    Not to mention the rather overwhelming potential that they have planned in advance to remove Biden the moment he takes office, so that they may install Harris. When Harris was consistently the least popular and worst performing candidate during the primaries. Which would absolutely be a complete and total subversion of their constituents' desires.

    It's also rather unhealthy for the country to constantly be painting a picture of your neighbor being some Russian bot trying to destroy your community, and this kind of value system needs rooted out for the sake of our country's future. Politicians have always used boogiemen and scare tactics to push their message, but never in my lifetime have they made the whole of their opposition the boogieman, and that's very dangerous problem for the country.
     
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