OWS to Invade SB Village Today 6 pm

[csnoski]

I have spent a lot of time on their website lately. Anyway, after yesterday's nonsense in Oakland they are having a countrywide Sunday Solidarity rally tonite...

WEAR BLACK AND FIGHT BACK Occupy Wall Street | NYC Protest for World Revolution

I watched some of the live feeds from their "citizen journalists" yesterday afternoon/evening and I kid you not, the guy filming walked past a protester that had what appeared to be a shotgun. He then said it was fake and kept going.

Thought you folks in Indy might be interested. I wonder if the Ft Wayne group has plans for this evening, but not enough to get bundled up and head into town.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Guess they don't know the number and types of LEO that are downtown currently... Plenty of federal LEOs milling about...

I am all for legal protests.

I am also all for LEO putting the kibosh on extra-legal activities.

-J-

 

[sepe]

I hope they get some good video of the beat downs on these hippies. Protests are fine but being a moron and protesting for the sake of protesting is just retarded.

 

[churchmouse]

This is not the place or time for this crap. We as a city should not be nationally embarrassed by these water dodgers.
Get a bath and a haircut, get a job and occupy that for a while. I am getting very weary of the protest for the sake of protesting movement. Something to say, pick the proper forum and say it. Not here, not now. Let the beat downs commence.

 

[CarmelHP]

I liked the film of the "Occupy Purdue" protestors yesterday. If they're representative of the Purder student body then the average student age is about 58. Bunch of aging '60's leftist radicals.

 

[singlestacksig]

last week I was at a comedy night at a bar in Lafayette, mid 20 somthings, and the performer made a refrence to OWS / occupy bloomington and got silence from the crowd..

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

I am in St. Robert, MO / Fort Leonard Wood for some training. We drove through town and saw one lonely old OWS protester standing in the park with a sign. He was doing his part, to be in solidarity with the rest of the OWS movement.

 

[jeremy]

So did the lazy bastages show up at the SB Village?!

 

[J_Wales]

Useful idiots for Marxist pigs; nothing more.

 

[bwframe]

From yesterday:
Union members, Occupiers hold protest march in Super Bowl Village

 

[HiRoller]

I am all for legal protests.
I am also all for LEO putting the kibosh on extra-legal activities.

-J-

+1 , I hope they can make their point, just don't **** in the bushes !

 

[Indy317]

This is not the place or time for this crap. We as a city should not be nationally embarrassed by these water dodgers.
Get a bath and a haircut, get a job and occupy that for a while. I am getting very weary of the protest for the sake of protesting movement. Something to say, pick the proper forum and say it. Not here, not now. Let the beat downs commence.

This is the time and place. The worst example of taxpayer subsidized millionaires and billionaires is on display this coming weekend. Why should such activity get a pass from economic protest? I'm sure many of those protesting would love an NFL league minimum taxpayer subsidized income of $250K/year for basically working out, playing football, and sitting on a bench/standing on the sidelines.

It is hilarious that the NFL players union claims to stand in solidarity with those who oppose Right-to-Work, but you can bet that the players won't protest by not playing the game. They are the highest paid taxpayer subsidized union members in this nation, like they really care about someone in a factory making $10/hour vs. $15/hour vs. $20/hour.

 

[Denny347]

This is the time and place. The worst example of taxpayer subsidized millionaires and billionaires is on display this coming weekend. Why should such activity get a pass from economic protest? I'm sure many of those protesting would love an NFL league minimum taxpayer subsidized income of $250K/year for basically working out, playing football, and sitting on a bench/standing on the sidelines.

It is hilarious that the NFL players union claims to stand in solidarity with those who oppose Right-to-Work, but you can bet that the players won't protest by not playing the game. They are the highest paid taxpayer subsidized union members in this nation, like they really care about someone in a factory making $10/hour vs. $15/hour vs. $20/hour.

Debbie Downer

 

[PistolBob]

I have tried and tried to figure out just what they are pissed off about. I work 50-60 hours a week in a very demanding occupation, so I don't get a lot of time to watch the news and read their blogs. Can someone put it in a nutshell for me?

 

[churchmouse]

I have tried and tried to figure out just what they are pissed off about. I work 50-60 hours a week in a very demanding occupation, so I don't get a lot of time to watch the news and read their blogs. Can someone put it in a nutshell for me?

Pissed at the rich and want a piece of the pie for nothing is all I get from this.
I grew up in the 60's had the hair and the uniform. Watched protesters that really had a reason for being in the streets. There was a target and a reason for it. I am no supporter of the wall street system but these mindless idiots want their college loans payed for and all the money seized and redistributed. That is my take from the interviews that I could stomach. If there is more I have not seen it.
In answer to post earlier, no flame job but Pick another trade or play ball if you can. Sounds a little silly to me. If I could be a part of the money machine I probably would but my canoe does not float on that stream. I paddle my ass off and get by like the rest of us common folk.
These people are just in the way. They have no clear message.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

This is the time and place. The worst example of taxpayer subsidized millionaires and billionaires is on display this coming weekend. Why should such activity get a pass from economic protest? I'm sure many of those protesting would love an NFL league minimum taxpayer subsidized income of $250K/year for basically working out, playing football, and sitting on a bench/standing on the sidelines.

It is hilarious that the NFL players union claims to stand in solidarity with those who oppose Right-to-Work, but you can bet that the players won't protest by not playing the game. They are the highest paid taxpayer subsidized union members in this nation, like they really care about someone in a factory making $10/hour vs. $15/hour vs. $20/hour.

Bite me. All professional sports are businesses. Some may not be run at a profit, but they cease to exist if they can't at least break even. The "product" being "sold" is entertainment and the "inventory" is the players and staff.

Take football. The players comprise about the top 10% of all the football players in the country. For most of these players, the $200K they make for the few years they can play will be their primary income for the rest of their lives. That income may have to support them as they cope with lingering injuries caused by their voluntary career path. Some make much much more than that $200K a year - and they earn it, in the Team Owners' eyes - by their production on the field and their drawing power with the fans.

Rather than protesting the "inequality" of outcomes of folks who are much much better at what they do than the protestors are at what THEY do (doo doo), the protestors would do well to learn to do something else well enough to be tops in their chosen profession instead of fleas on the national body.

 

[churchmouse]

Bite me. All professional sports are businesses. Some may not be run at a profit, but they cease to exist if they can't at least break even. The "product" being "sold" is entertainment and the "inventory" is the players and staff.

Take football. The players comprise about the top 10% of all the football players in the country. For most of these players, the $200K they make for the few years they can play will be their primary income for the rest of their lives. That income may have to support them as they cope with lingering injuries caused by their voluntary career path. Some make much much more than that $200K a year - and they earn it, in the Team Owners' eyes - by their production on the field and their drawing power with the fans.

Rather than protesting the "inequality" of outcomes of folks who are much much better at what they do than the protestors are at what THEY do (doo doo), the protestors would do well to learn to do something else well enough to be tops in their chosen profession instead of fleas on the national body.

^^^This^^^ a whole lot of this^^^^

 

[RMOR]

I'm sure many of those protesting would love an NFL league minimum taxpayer subsidized income of $250K/year for basically working out, playing football, and sitting on a bench/standing on the sidelines.

Sure but why do these protestors, or anybody else for that matter, deserve anything that these players earn? They are paid what the market will bare, whether it's $250k or a million. It's their money, not yours or mine.

Rather than protesting the "inequality" of outcomes of folks who are much much better at what they do than the protestors are at what THEY do (doo doo), the protestors would do well to learn to do something else well enough to be tops in their chosen profession instead of fleas on the national body.

^^^This^^^ is the answer. If the protestor learns to be as good in his field as the NFL players are in their field, he too can earn what his market will bare. Maybe the real problem is that he feels his chosen profession doesn't pay enough? Well in that case he needs to learn a new skill set, like maybe how to catch or throw a football REALLY well.

 

[sepe]

Sure but why do these protestors, or anybody else for that matter, deserve anything that these players earn? They are paid what the market will bare, whether it's $250k or a million. It's their money, not yours or mine.



^^^This^^^ is the answer. If the protestor learns to be as good in his field as the NFL players are in their field, he too can earn what his market will bare. Maybe the real problem is that he feels his chosen profession doesn't pay enough? Well in that case he needs to learn a new skill set, like maybe how to catch or throw a football REALLY well.

Most of the union guys would be much happier as a punter or kick off specialist (no field goal kicking as it is too much pressure). They'd get the pay they think they deserve and not have to put in as much effort as the rest of the guys on the field.

 

[Indy317]

Bite me. All professional sports are businesses. Some may not be run at a profit, but they cease to exist if they can't at least break even. The "product" being "sold" is entertainment and the "inventory" is the players and staff.

Professional sports are taxpayer subsidized businesses. If you take out the tax payer stadiums, direct tax revenue handouts, etc., most NFL teams don't exist. Pro-sports aren't businesses. They are public-private partnerships, or examples of corporate fascism.

Take football. The players comprise about the top 10% of all the football players in the country. For most of these players, the $200K they make for the few years they can play will be their primary income for the rest of their lives. That income may have to support them as they cope with lingering injuries caused by their voluntary career path. Some make much much more than that $200K a year - and they earn it, in the Team Owners' eyes - by their production on the field and their drawing power with the fans.

I don't care how much they get paid. I care that they seem to only demand such money because owners can pay that money, because owners get a handout from taxpayers. That isn't how business should work. If that means bench warmers couldn't only make $60K/year w/o the taxpayer money, so be it.

I will say continuing to see so many people (not just pro-sports types) making all these government subsidized six-figure + incomes really makes it easier to want to vote for folks like Obama who will finally make these people pay their "fair share." I think $250K is laughable. There are plenty of folks out there making $120K/year, partially due to taxpayers, and maybe it is time they start giving back a little more given their huge salary.

Sure but why do these protestors, or anybody else for that matter, deserve anything that these players earn? They are paid what the market will bare, whether it's $250k or a million. It's their money, not yours or mine.

A true "market" has no government involvement. I can't blame them protesting because that $250K/year bench warmer wage wouldn't be anything close to that if it weren't for taxpayer money bailing out pro-sports. Everyone complains that union labor on public projects is a "waste of taxpayer money." They are complaining because a union electrician likely earns $5/hour (if that) more than a non-union electrician. Yet these same folks turn a blind eye at a taxpayer subsidized pro-sports union members earning double or triple the union member wage.

If the protestor learns to be as good in his field as the NFL players are in their field, he too can earn what his market will bare.

There is no markets. If you have to have taxpayers bailout your company to bring a product to market, that isn't really a market. It is a government subsidized product being delivered to the population. It really isn't that hard to explain it. A true pro-sports market would have owners building their own stadiums, taking all revenue from them. It would have star quarterbacks making $5M, if that, per year, not tens of millions. These star players would be making all their money via product sponsorships. Those no-name players wouldn't be getting anywhere near $250K+/year.

Of course if the NFL was really a free market enterprise, there wouldn't be a players union with power, nor would there be anywhere near the amount of teams that there are.