Patriot Rand Paul Over Ruled in PAT Act Filibuster

[ATOMonkey]

Well, he tried, and there were actually some people on his side. Sad to see so many others against the side of Liberty.

Like Ground Hog's day, our leaders saw their shadow and now we'll have 4 more years of tyranny.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Sorry, wrong forum, please move to politics.

 

[ElsiePeaRN]

Looks like his fellow GOP Senators turned on him as well. Reid agreed to allow Paul to offer two amendments to the Patriot Act. The first protected legal gun owners by putting restrictions on the government's ability to demand gun purchase records. The amendment failed 85-10. His second amendment, which limited banks' requirements to report "suspicious" transactions failed 91-4. The Senate GOP leadership actively lobbied fellow republicans to vote against the amendments.

His party made a point of throwing him under the bus before going on to pass the Patriot Act extensions.

 

[ocsdor]

What? The Reps and Dems are working together to bring further tyranny upon us citizens? No way...

 

[nawainwright]

shocked! SHOCKED!! Anything to maintain the established power structure. It doesn't matter if it Oceania or Eurasia, same old slavery and vitriol.

 

[sentinelrepublic]

we're going the wrong way,...and fast. We cant clone thomas jefferson can we? Oh thats right, his dna is being hidden in joe bieden's sock drawer. Forgot, sorry!

 

[lashicoN]

Guess ATF just got the green light to demand every Form 4473 in the country. That's probably what they were setting up the Gunwalker scandal for. I guess they'll have to manufacture a new catalyst now.

 

[lashicoN]

we're going the wrong way,...and fast. We cant clone thomas jefferson can we? Oh thats right, his dna is being hidden in joe bieden's sock drawer. Forgot, sorry!

He would be unelectable these days.

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

He would be unelectable these days.

So true. He makes Ron Paul look young.

 

[rambone]

Looks like his fellow GOP Senators turned on him as well. Reid agreed to allow Paul to offer two amendments to the Patriot Act. The first protected legal gun owners by putting restrictions on the government's ability to demand gun purchase records. The amendment failed 85-10. His second amendment, which limited banks' requirements to report "suspicious" transactions failed 91-4. The Senate GOP leadership actively lobbied fellow republicans to vote against the amendments.

His party made a point of throwing him under the bus before going on to pass the Patriot Act extensions.

WOW. Well played, Republicans. Bunch of fascists.

 

[ElsiePeaRN]

I heard his Dad speak at a dinner in Feb 2002, shortly (well, almost 4 months) after the Patriot Act was passed. I remember him saying, "I vote with the Democrats 1/3 of the time, I vote with the Republicans 1/3 of time time, and 1/3 of the time I vote all by myself." Looks like Rand does take after the old man.

 

[model67a]

Rand Paul beat Mitch McConnel's choice for the senate in the Kentucky primary so I think Mitch probably has a personnal vindetta against him!!! If Rand Paul does too good a job this would be a bad reflection on Mitch!!!

 

[Garb]

I heard his Dad speak at a dinner in Feb 2002, shortly (well, almost 4 months) after the Patriot Act was passed. I remember him saying, "I vote with the Democrats 1/3 of the time, I vote with the Republicans 1/3 of time time, and 1/3 of the time I vote all by myself." Looks like Rand does take after the old man.

I sure hope so. I hope the people of Kentucky keep electing him like the people of Texas have kept his dad in office.

 

[mrjarrell]

Went down to defeat and the usual suspects, and their drones, were against it.

NRA Joins Mitch McConnell Against Rand Paul and Gun Owners for America - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

 

[Garb]

Went down to defeat and the usual suspects, and their drones, were against it.

NRA Joins Mitch McConnell Against Rand Paul and Gun Owners for America - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

Honestly, I think the NRA are secret friends of the Brady's.

 

[hornadylnl]

Keep sending those checks to the NRA.

 

[MAJB Retired]

He's growing on me...if only we could have more like him and West!

 

[revsaxon]

From the NRA response:

If the Paul amendment were adopted, the FBI would have used other ways to access whatever firearms records it might need for intelligence or anti-terrorism investigations. This is especially troublesome for gun owners.

This would result in United States Attorneys simply demanding the same records through grand jury subpoenas, which require no judicial approval before issuance. Fighting a subpoena after the fact can be very costly and carries legal risks of its own, including possible charges for obstruction of justice.

Its so much better they can get them without those subpoenas now. Thank God for the NRA, saving us the hassle of being able to fight for our privacy.

 

[hornadylnl]

From the NRA response:


Its so much better they can get them without those subpoenas now. Thank God for the NRA, saving us the hassle of being able to fight for our privacy.

Keep sending those checks to the NRA.

 

[Garb]

Its so much better they can get them without those subpoenas now. Thank God for the NRA, saving us the hassle of being able to fight for our privacy.

Gees, what a lame excuse. "We wouldn't want somebody to overwork themselves."