Pennsylvania's largest gun show promoter bans sale of 'ghost guns'

[MCgrease08]

Sorry Josh, Eagle Arms Productions Will Allow Sales of 'Ghost Gun' Build Kits After All - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ Pennsylvania’s Attorney General Josh Shapiro made a hasty bee-line for the nearest TV cameras on Monday to anxiously announce that he’d managed to pressure the state’s largest gun show promoter to end the sale of so-called ghost gun kits at their shows. Eagle Arms...

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Eagle Arms Productions has told the AG to stuff it and returned to selling 80% products at their shows.

Buuuuuuut they're making buyers sign a bill of sale, which you can bet the AG will want to grab some time down the road. Best put fake info.

I'm guessing this "reversal" was the result of other vendors and attendees of the shows telling the promoter to GTFOH. I don't know that this compromise will tone down the heat as much as the show promoter hopes it will.

 

[Ark]

I'm guessing this "reversal" was the result of other vendors and attendees of the shows telling the promoter to GTFOH. I don't know that this compromise will tone down the heat as much as the show promoter hopes it will.

Or they consulted with a lawyer and discovered they don't actually have to take verbal orders from an AG.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Is it not obvious to these imbeciles that 80% receivers will necessarily NOT be the favored weapons of criminals? Building a gun requires work and constructive skill--two attributes to which criminals are very badly allergic.

 

[Leadeye]

Maybe try prosecuting the criminal gangs, convicting them, and then hanging them.

 

[Floki]

You two didn't read the article, did you?


I have done some research into what it takes to complete a Poly 80 pistol and it's not nearly as easy as the media makes it out to be. It's not something a tweaker is going to be able to do in a few minutes like the anti-gunners claim. But a well organized crime ring could pump them out pretty quickly by investing in a few hundred dollars worth of tools and having 3-4 guys dedicated to building them all day long.

ETA: Of course, manufacturing firearms with the intent to sell them is already illegal, especially when they are sold to a prohibited person, but I digress.

All it takes is a dremel, or a file.

 

[IndyDave1776]

All it takes is a dremel, or a file.

If you want to hold a gun freehand with a Dremel up to your face, you go right ahead.

 

[Ark]

If you want to hold a gun freehand with a Dremel up to your face, you go right ahead.

Hmmm, sounds dangerous, better do some meth first so I can focus.

 

[rb288]

Ok, so, correct me if I'm wrong, but, you can't sell an 80% without a serial number being added.
Therefore, it's not a "ghost" gun anymore.
80% lowers are completely legal for you, for your own personal use, to own.
You just can't sell it, legally, without putting a serial number on it.
Then it is handled like any other legal sale.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Ok, so, correct me if I'm wrong, but, you can't sell an 80% without a serial number being added.
Therefore, it's not a "ghost" gun anymore.
80% lowers are completely legal for you, for your own personal use, to own.
You just can't sell it, legally, without putting a serial number on it.
Then it is handled like any other legal sale.

Yes, but you are addressing the truth. The leftists are screeching about their follow up for the fictional "gun show loophole".

 

[IndyDave1776]

It's just moral panic because it sounds scary to ignorant housewives.

If the ATF were actually serious about combating the use of firearms in crimes they would prosecute more straw purchasers and prosecute more gun crime rather than plead out for lesser offences. Instead, by forcing everyone to go through the NCIS route, between this and Biden's plans, it means that every firearm purchase will eventually be on record.

Exactly. If they were conscientious law enforcement personnel rather than practitioners of treason setting us up for a forcible coup they would act as you describe.

 

[MCgrease08]

Ok, so, correct me if I'm wrong, but, you can't sell an 80% without a serial number being added.
Therefore, it's not a "ghost" gun anymore.
80% lowers are completely legal for you, for your own personal use, to own.
You just can't sell it, legally, without putting a serial number on it.
Then it is handled like any other legal sale.

This is not correct. You absolutely can legally sell a home built, unserialized firearm as long as you are not "engaged in the business" of manufacturing firearms.

Can an individual now manufacture these firearms and sell them? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Any person "engaged in the business" as a manufacturer must obtain a license from ATF.  The term "engaged in the business" means— (A) as applied to a manufacturer of firearms, a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing firearms as a regular course of trade or business with...

www.atf.gov

 

[Floki]

If you want to hold a gun freehand with a Dremel up to your face, you go right ahead.

Thanks for your permission, I did that just tonight on a G17 frame. Came out perfect.