Police Protesters Clash in Oakland

[CalebToNowhere]

Police and Protesters Clash in Oakland again

Police, Occupy protesters clash in Oakland

Nothing says peaceful protest like a setting stuff on fire in the middle of the street.

 

[Manan]

Notice it is Oakland and not San Francisco.

 

[Expat]

This is what happens when law enforcement isn't allowed to break up mobs.

 

[public servant]

If you use enough water cannons...nothing will burn.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

I wonder why Oakland seems to have erupted in more violent gatherings than other places? It is almost as if something happened, creating a turd vacuum.

Hrm, I cannot think of any incident that would lead to that...

Seriously, if law enforcements aim was to create violent riots - they acted accordingly.

 

[mrjarrell]

News this morning from Oakland says that another veteran was seriously injured by the OPD. Had to have his spleen removed. Both sides have a lot to answer for.

 

[Sigblaster]

If you use enough water cannons...nothing will burn.

But they still won't take the stink off that hippie. Hippie stink is to the bone.

 

[RockofStrength]

If you use enough water cannons...nothing will burn.

Because nothing tells people to be peaceful like threats of force.

 

[public servant]

Because nothing tells people not to burn other people's **** like threats of force.

FIFY

You're defending the arsonists?

 

[Constructionist]

I'm reminded of the "conspiracy theory" everyone poo-pooed a year or so ago... the one where forces that wish to destroy America create a problem and provided a prepared solution. Bottom up, top down, inside out.

 

[Hotdoger]

I'm reminded of the "conspiracy theory" everyone poo-pooed a year or so ago... the one where forces that wish to destroy America create a problem and provided a prepared solution. Bottom up, top down, inside out.

The democrat party is now controlled by totalitatian marxists who seek revolution and the republican's are aiding and abetting.

 

[cobber]

To blame this on the police is specious. There is a hard-core group of agents-provocateurs who thrive on creating chaos, and they're not the ones in blue. Look at any G8 or G20 meeting and you'll see the anarchist crowd pulling the same stunts. They're simply looking for any opportunity to cause trouble and then point the finger at the police.

Just like the 'anti-war' demonstrations in Chicago in 1968. The Yippies goal was to bring the war to American streets. They were actually pleased that Nixon was elected, as they thought in their demented minds that this would lead to an escalation of the war in Vietnam (it did), which would in turn lead to revolution in America and the overthrow of capitalism (it didn't).

Fast forward to 2011. Same belief, same tactics. As Mao said:

The guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea.

These troublemakers are taking advantage of a popular movement, which gives cover to their own agenda.



FWIW the Black Panther Party was founded in Oakland, CA.

 

[Expat]

FIFY

You're defending the arsonists?

and you are surprised?

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

FIFY

You're defending the arsonists?

I wouldnt say you fixed anything. He had it right. Like we went to war with Iraq, and told them we would use nukes if we wanted to. Is that a good way to get countries to STOP developing nukes? I'd say it does the opposite. Same thing with protests, you dont tell people to be peaceful as you beat the living crap out of them. It just doesnt work that way

 

[Sigblaster]

I wouldnt say you fixed anything. He had it right. Like we went to war with Iraq, and told them we would use nukes if we wanted to. Is that a good way to get countries to STOP developing nukes? I'd say it does the opposite. Same thing with protests, you dont tell people to be peaceful as you beat the living crap out of them. It just doesnt work that way

If you actually nuke those countries, they will be unable to develop their own nukes. If you beat those protesters hard enough, they will be peaceful forever.

The most important part of using force is using ENOUGH force.

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

If you actually nuke those countries, they will be unable to develop their own nukes. If you beat those protesters hard enough, they will be peaceful forever.

The most important part of using force is using ENOUGH force.

LOL, have fun nuking the world, and beating innocents into comas. Thats one way to get your point across.

 

[Gabriel]

There is a hard-core group of agents-provocateurs who thrive on creating chaos, and they're not the ones in blue. Look at any G8 or G20 meeting and you'll see the anarchist crowd pulling the same stunts. They're simply looking for any opportunity to cause trouble and then point the finger at the police.

This, and they are very good at their jobs. From the people I've spoken to that are at most of those protests, they're mostly the same individuals. They travel from protest to protest no matter the cause and do the same type of things.

 

[Sigblaster]

LOL, have fun nuking the world, and beating innocents into comas. Thats one way to get your point across.

Innocents? Don't try to bull**** me.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

You definitely cannot blame the police for the actions of people intending to cause damage or set fire to buildings...

What you can blame the Oakland police department for is the poor handling of the protests leading to the escalation that we see today.

Is anyone really surprised at this escalation? Did anyone really believe that if they deployed tear gas and beat people in the crowd that everyone would just decide to go home, without any backlash? In the age of social media and cameras on every phone, I think the outcome of those decisions were obvious at the time... The situation will gets worse, the crowd that wants to burn things and get violent comes out... every time, like clockwork...

 

[Effingham]

I wonder why Oakland seems to have erupted in more violent gatherings than other places? It is almost as if something happened, creating a turd vacuum.

Ever been to Oakland? I used to live just off Telegraph in Berkeley, not far from Oakland. The place is a bloody DMZ on good days.