Poll: If you lose your job, how long until you become a bum?

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  • How soon does worker become bum???


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    Libertarian01

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    To All,

    As I am taking two (2) business classes this semester we are going to discuss a lot of legal issues in one (Human Resources Management) and a lot of social/philosophical/psychological issues in the other (Organizational Behavior.)

    I would like to take time and bounce some general thoughts off of all of you and learn from the vast diversity and life experiences of ya’ll.

    I’ll start by telling two (2) stories so that you get the idea of this question.

    Story #1) Many years ago I was watching 60 Minutes (or equivalent) with my father when they were interviewing a man who had been out of work for some 12 years. He was a coal miner and the local mine had shut down. He said in the interview that he couldn’t get another job as a coal miner until they reopened the mine. My father commented that, “He isn’t a coal miner. He is a bum. If he hasn’t worked in over 10 years he is a bum.”

    I related this story in class (HR) and a young lady told Story #2) “I agree completely. I have an uncle who was an accountant. Where he worked they started introducing computers and required everyone to learn how to use the computer. He refused to work on those things and hasn’t worked in 20 years. He still refuses to get on a computer.”

    So basically it seems that somewhere between one (1) day and 20 years of not practicing your chosen profession you transform from an “X” to a “bum.”

    I’ll start by saying I think someone could go a bit more than a year. Looking for work in your profession can be difficult and stressful. After a year though it seems to me that a person needs to consider retooling and changing professions / careers. I think I am leaning toward at least a year given the current economy and difficulty finding work. I definitely think that over two (2) years and you are a bum.

    For purposes of this question all time lost that is due to illness or injury does not count. I have a friend who fought a deadly disease and the treatment could have killed him. His treatment lasted an entire year. So, once treatment was over that is where I would start the clock. Also, say someone has to take time off to care for a relative. The time caring for the relative does not count. Example: someone is a marketing specialist who takes two (2) years to care for a dying relative. Those two (2) years do not count. Once the relative dies and this person tries to reenter the workforce as a marketing specialist the clock is ticking.

    Finally, this doesn’t count someone who starts working outside of their field and keeps looking for something that was their field. So if the out of work coal miner got a job stocking shelves at Wallmart he would be a former coal miner, but not a bum. He is at least working.

    I think you get the idea. Let me know your thoughts and feel free to explain your line of thinking.

    Regards,

    Doug
     

    Mr Evilwrench

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    I'm in a position where I can go basically indefinitely. If I wasn't, I'd flip burgers if that was what it took to keep the lights turned on. Wouldn't do lap dances, though. I don't need a dog that bad.
     
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    There is no poll for bums with an internet connection: how am I gonna vote :dunno:

    Less than a year, more than 6 months if I had no income whatsoever. Assuming a lack of family aid, of course.
     

    NinnJinn

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    IMO, If you need money, and you refuse to work unless it is something specific, you are a BUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A week after my business failed and I locked the doors for the last time, I was working at Mc. Donalds. Was it glamourus? Heck no it wasn't. But it helped keep the lights on and my girls fed for 4 weeks until I got a better job.

    When I wasn't Working at Mickey D's, I was stopping here and there, putting in apps and resumes. The one interview I did have, The Supervisor asked me, "So you are a former IT consultant firm owner, and you are applying for an entry level IT consultant trainee position, and currently working at Mc. Donald's?? WTF?" (he actually said the F word)

    My response was, "gotta keep the lights on and got 2 little girls at home to feed. I got knocked off the ladder, but if you give me that ladder I will climb it with pride."

    He was silent with a goofy look on his face almost in disbelief that I would stoop that low... Then said "Turn your uniform in, I will see you Monday."
     

    eldirector

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    I will NEVER be a bum. I may change professions, or do odd jobs, or whatever it takes, but I will always provide for my family.

    I've been "unemployed" for 3 months between positions in my current profession. Far from bum-ish, though my wife might disagree! More like working part time while I polished the resume, made calls, and interviewed companies. Got some personal projects done as well.

    My definition of "bum" is either un-employable or refusing to work. One is fate, the other is choice. Since I don't really believe in fate.....
     

    Rayne

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    If you want to work, you can find a job even in this economy. Some people just think they are too good to do certain jobs. Life isn't easy and it's not a free ride. No one is responsible for yourself except you. That's why most of us carry a firearm anyway, so why wouldn't that hold true when it comes to supporting ourselves. If you lose your job, you should be looking for a new one the next day and the only condition to employment should be that it provides a pay check.


    :soapbox: Aren't you sorry you asked now?
     

    jsharmon7

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    There is a difference between "can't find a job" and "can't find a job I'm willing to do." To me this comes down to a person saying that if they can't do X then they just won't work at all. If you lose your job and you need to make ends meet, you better find some kind of work.
     
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