Purdue Police "... Or I'll F'ING shoot you"

[RA8]

Was pulled over for my license plate lights being burnt out. Was told to grab my license and registration. I politely said(since I believe in informing them so they don't have to find it.) "Sir, Just so you are aware, my handgun is right next to my wallet. Would you like me to step out to grab my wallet?"

Purdue Police Officer "No, just don't pull your gun on me, or ill F*****g shoot you!"

Trying to keep the mood light, I responded "That sounds like it would be a fair trade to me" and gave him my ingo. excuse me, my info. I then started my voice recorder.

He came back, in much more of a polite mood and said(I recorded this part, shame on me for missing that first gem) , "Robert, why don't you go ahead and put your hands out the window for a second, thank you, so I appreciate you lettin me know about.. usually its easier if you stay in so we're not face to face... get your light fixed...just a warning...I appreciate you telling me... have a good night."

I wish I would have told him that I didn't appreciate him stating the obvious in such a threatening manner, maybe I just felt that It was his own sarcastic take on the situation, and really didn't feel disrespected. but i'm to non confrontational for that.

He did NOT ask me to take out my weapon, and for that, I'm willing to balance this whole thing out into a +1 for purdue police.

I guess in his defense, I had a bright green backwards hat on for saint pattys day, and I was leaving the bars at 3:00 AM(Completely 0.00 sober mind you)

Anyways. thats my story. The recording is almost exactly how I typed it.

 

[IndyMonkey]

No reason to be cussed at. -1 for officer not being a professional

 

[360]

No reason to be cussed at. -1 for officer not being a professional

-1 for officer working for Purdue.

 

[Astrocreep]

I wonder what would have happened if you had said the same thing back to him?

Sarcastic or not, that was severely rude bordering on aggressive behavior.
Whatever happened to 'An armed society is a polite society'?

 

[DocGlock86]

No reason to be cussed at. -1 for officer not being a professional

-1 for officer working for Purdue.

I'd have to agree. Just my thinking but if I am planning on pulling my gun and shooting a police officer, I'm probably not going to sit there and inform you (nicely and in a professional manner mind you) that I have a gun and how would you like me to proceed.

So if I'm a LEO and I have a guy who informs me so, I'm probably going to take some precautions but I'm not going to be a jerk.



I am glad to the OP that things got better and you got on your way with a nod and smile.

 

[Mokkie]

Its a shame that we live in a society where every one uses a four letter word when talking about anything. When I was a kid growing up you used a four letter word you got your mouth washed out with soap. Today you try to wash out a kids mouth out with soap you go to jail for child abuse. There is no need to talk that way it is just the way it is in todays society.

 

[jeremy]

I wonder what would have happened if you had said the same thing back to him?

Sarcastic or not, that was severely rude bordering on aggressive behavior.
Whatever happened to 'An armed society is a polite society'?

We no longer live in an Armed Society... That is the problem...

 

[E5RANGER375]

file a complaint on the guy. hes no better than you are. dont let them talk down at you. also why tell them you have a gun? its none of their business. and onece again a cop threatens a civilians life over a hypothetical situation thats never gonna happen. too bad you didnt get it on tape or you would own his ***

 

[caddywhompus]

Hey, we're all human and we all make mistakes. He messed up but he made it right with his polite demeanor afterward and a warning. He didn't treat you like a criminal. I say let it slide this time.

 

[Hammer]

Purdue Police Officer "No, just don't pull your gun on me, or ill F*****g shoot you!"

You actually think he thought he could?
You have the element of surprise here.

Not alluring to you actually do this, or anyone for that matter. But his tone could have been him being off guard, and that was his way of getting him self back in control.

Either way he (IMO) made a threat to you.

 

[public servant]

I'm not sure he was making a threat as much as he was stating the obvious. But if you felt threatened, violated or offended...call his boss and file a complaint.

 

[LEaSH]

He's probably burned out from dealing with dude-bros and acted like one himself.
He probably wouldn't have said that to an older guy and definitely not to a woman. If so, then eff that a-hole.

 

[Hammer]

Do you think if the OP "stated the obvious" that the officer would have taken it as a threat?

 

[DragonGunner]

Why did you feel compelled to tell the officer you were legally
armed? Not being rude...but this got the ball rolling an not in
your favour. This is why so many do not tell the officers they
are armed unless asked. Indiana does not require you to inform
the officer when being stopped.....I know you weren't being rude,
but you gave up some of your Liberty an didn't have too. Officers
are under alot of pressure...I'm with the group that says lets not
add anymore...when you tell them you have a gun, even legally,
they go into even more alert...combine that with a rookie....an you
can have a big problem...one guy in another state did what you did
an the officer put his gun to his temple, took him out, handcuffed him
an drilled him for 45 min.....action was takin later...but that was later.
Face it, some police are very anti-gun....I'm not doing anything wrong
by not telling the officer I'm armed. If he wants to know, he can ask, if
he doesn't ask, then he must not care that I'm legally caring...an why
should he. He's their for things that are wrong or illegal right? This is just
info. If those choose to inform police I'm armed, fine .....I'm not, unless
they want to know.

 

[jsgolfman]

Hey, we're all human and we all make mistakes. He messed up but he made it right with his polite demeanor afterward and a warning. He didn't treat you like a criminal. I say let it slide this time.

If I treated my customers even remotely like that, I would be on the street looking for another job.

 

[bigiron]

Why did you feel compelled to tell the officer you were legally
armed? Not being rude...but this got the ball rolling an not in
your favour. This is why so many do not tell the officers they
are armed unless asked. Indiana does not require you to inform
the officer when being stopped.....I know you weren't being rude,
but you gave up some of your Liberty an didn't have too. Officers
are under alot of pressure...I'm with the group that says lets not
add anymore...when you tell them you have a gun, even legally,
they go into even more alert...combine that with a rookie....an you
can have a big problem...one guy in another state did what you did
an the officer put his gun to his temple, took him out, handcuffed him
an drilled him for 45 min.....action was takin later...but that was later.
Face it, some police are very anti-gun....I'm not doing anything wrong
by not telling the officer I'm armed. If he wants to know, he can ask, if
he doesn't ask, then he must not care that I'm legally caring...an why
should he. He's their for things that are wrong or illegal right? This is just
info. If those choose to inform police I'm armed, fine .....I'm not, unless
they want to know.

uh oh.........

 

[bigiron]

i had many, many run ins with PUPD during my tenure in west lafayette. more than once i was chased down a back alley by some fat guy yelling..."PUPD,PUPD......stop!) we used to yell at them when they drove by our house and sometimes they would stop and we would often inquire why they worked for PUPD. usually the conversation ended with us laughing at them and telling them they work for PUPD because they are too fat and out of shape to join a real police force. those were the days, i eventually went on to pursue a job in law enforcement and subsiquently became fat.

 

[Soundslikejosh]

If I treated my customers even remotely like that, I would be on the street looking for another job.

This. Who else is ever allowed to act this way on the job?

 

[XMil]

He's probably burned out from dealing with dude-bros and acted like one himself.
He probably wouldn't have said that to an older guy and definitely not to a woman. If so, then eff that a-hole.

I'm an "older dude", last time I got pulled over (the only time in the last 10 or 15 years), the conversation started like this:

Officer : "What the f*** was that s***?".
Me: "Excuse me?"
Officer : "You know w.t.f. I'm talking about, give me your G.D. driver's license".

No ticket, no warning and the scum bag was in civilian clothes so no I had no name with which to file a report.



I had a lady in the car.

My horrible crime? I moved to the right lane to turn and realized too late I needed to turn left instead and switched back to the other lane.

 

[caddywhompus]

If I treated my customers even remotely like that, I would be on the street looking for another job.

Valid point and I don't necessarily disagree. I have had my gun rights totally violated by a cop before though with no remorse shown. So knowing how it could have gone and seeing where this one ended up, I'd have cut the guy a break. Especially since he's not a real cop. I tease. I feel our police should act professionally at all times and be held to a higher standard due to their authority. However, I also feel like they shouldn't be slam dunked for for every time they misfire on an unprofessional comment, especially when they make an honest effort to make nice afterward.