Question for current or former LEOs

[hpclayto]

I just give them my driver's license and carry permit along with my registration and proof of insurance all at once. In the one in a million chance the a trigger happy cop notices my gun under my knee I don’t want to get shot. I’m not trying to start a debate but I’m just not that worried about telling the cop I’m legally armed.

Why in the world do you have your gun under your knee? If I see that on my approach we’re going to be having a very different interaction and subsequent conversation.

 

[cedartop]

Wow, this thread. Former LEO, but in MI. At that time if you were carrying it was almost 100% that it was illegal because we weren't a shall issue state yet. As already mentioned, now we must inform. The advice from the IN officers is what I would give as well. I wonder why are so many of you getting pulled over?

 

[Squander]

Because we want to show the LEO what we are carrying.

Wow, this thread. Former LEO, but in MI. At that time if you were carrying it was almost 100% that it was illegal because we weren't a shall issue state yet. As already mentioned, now we must inform. The advice from the IN officers is what I would give as well. I wonder why are so many of you getting pulled over?

 

[jdthieke]

There is no duty to inform, but it's very much appreciated by road.officers. be cautious when traveling out of state, diff states have diff rules

 

[2A_Tom]

Well, I am polite and give my DL and Ins card.

 

[Joniki]

When I get stopped, I hand my DL to the LEO with a donut under it. Works every time...

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Look for Kirk Freeman's award-winning (*looks at Mods* I said award-winning, ahem) thread "How to Act on Traffic Stops While Carrying".

Kirk Freeman is not only a brilliant jazz dancer, private pilot, snazzy dresser and completely overly modest, he also has deep insights on how to act during traffic stops.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...stops-while-carrying.html?443427=#post7257926

 

[Kirk Freeman]

You people are still talking entirely too much and by that I mean a single word. Stop it.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

You people are still talking entirely too much and by that I mean a single word. Stop it.

Kirk's dog... (Full disclosure, I stole this picture from Phase2's post. )

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Now THAT'S a good dog.

 

[DC1711]

H.R. 218

With my hands still on the wheel I will inform the officer that I am a retired LEO and the fact that I am carrying and the location of the Gun. I will wait till he tells me what he wants me to do.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

With my hands still on the wheel I will inform the officer that I am a retired LEO and the fact that I am carrying and the location of the Gun. I will wait till he tells me what he wants me to do.

So, we didn't read it, did we?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

So, we didn't read it, did we?

Cops can't read. Duh.

 

[Route 45]

With my hands still on the wheel I will inform the officer that I am a retired LEO and the fact that I am carrying and the location of the Gun. I will wait till he tells me what he wants me to do.

So, we didn't read it, did we?

Your advice does not apply to retired cops.

 

[Peacekeeper3073]

I always appreciated the ones who stated right away they had a weapon and a permit. Had a lot of people hand me their permit with their license too before telling me they were armed, good with that too.

 

[Sigblaster]

You people are still talking entirely too much and by that I mean a single word. Stop it.

I grew up in a family of lawyers, and they told me not to talk to the cops also, and to give them one of my uncles' or cousins' names if it was hairy enough to warrant that.

But sometimes a single word is the proper response. I mean, you can't just sit there mute and be expected to be treated nicely.

"Do you know how fast you were going?"
"Yes."
"Well, I clocked you at 52 in a 35 zone."
"Ok."
"Why were you going that fast?"
"Im not going to answer that without my attorney present. His name is Tom Redacted."

Would you have a problem with those single word answers in a traffic stop? I never admitted that she was correct.
That actually happened, by the way, and I was doing more than 52 in a 35, and I just paid it. Cheaper than fighting it, that many years ago.

Also, I recommend to my friends that they read "Tactics For Criminal Patrol", if they can find a copy. I loaned my copy out, and I don't remember to whom, so I can't loan it out any more. It may be dated, and there may be newer training textbooks for cops, but it gives an insight into the nature of police behavior on traffic stops, and how to behave and react accordingly. Would you recommend this, or is there a newer text you can point us to?

 

[JTL165]

My advice would be to not bring it up of concealed. If asked answer truthfully but no sense in going down that rabbit hole if not necessary.

 

[mrortega]

Some years ago we were driving thru Petersburg Indiana around midnight on the way home from IU. My son and three buddies were following us. He got pulled over and we stopped a half mile down the road and waited. Soon he was on the way again. He said he informed the city officer that he had a pistol in the vehicle and the officer just said "okay. Drive safely" and let him go. I imagine he didn't want to deal with the hassle. Son wasn't speeding but officer said he wondered what 4 young men were doing out that time of night. (whole other issue.)