QUESTION ON MOSIN

[fishgun]

Have been wondering what it means to have been counter bored and are the pen marks on the ones in the stores not as collectable. I have 2, a carbine and rifle and all the numbers match. Just didn't know if the pen marks make the value go down.

 

[redneck919]

im not sure been wondering this myself.might be able to find the info you need on 7.62x54r.net

 

[gdh]

Counter boring is the drilling out of the muzzle to get back to better rifling in the bore. This is supposed to help the rifle shot better. Can not help you on the pens marks have not seen them or heard about them.

 

[fishgun]

THANKS have gone to the other site so see if I can find it

 

[Scutter01]

You're talking about the electropenciling. After the War, the rifles went to various armories to be refurbished and returned to service. If a part was too worn out and there was no new replacement, they would take a part from another rifle and electropencil the serial number into it, crossing out the old serial number in the process. The four main parts that get serialized are the receiver, the magazine, the bolt, and the stock (on the butt plate). Electropenciled rifles are not as collectible because it means they are not all original parts. That said, Mosins are so cheap that I'm not sure they're all that "collectible" regardless.

 

[fishgun]

Your right. Can't hardly buy a beat up .22 for what you have to pay for these. Lots of fun. thanks

 

[thej27]

Counter-boreing also helps to re-crown the muzzle which can get dinged and chipped away affecting accuracy.

 

[dice dealer]

Of the M44's i have had the one that were counter bored did shoot better .
i have had 4 2 bored 2 not ...

 

[AFA1CY]

From what I understand, the Russians counter bored all the rifles they re-arsenaled. Also the damage to the crown was due to the steel cleaning rod as well as normal wear. The cleaning kits have a cap that fits over the muzzle to keep the rod from contacting the crown.

 

[waloidian]

hmm i have a tula 1944 without counterboring. it has the electropencil but all the serials match

 

[kirkorner]

i agree with thej27, i have heard they counter bore it to recrown it as well.

 

[fishgun]

Son In Law just purchasted one in Elkhart yesterday for $60.00.
very nice and clean, only the numbers don't match no bigga deal.

 

[AFA1CY]

Son In Law just purchasted one in Elkhart yesterday for $60.00.
very nice and clean, only the numbers don't match no bigga deal.

You want to be careful with that. If the bolt has been "force matched" the head space could be wrong. Have it checked before shooting.

 

[fishgun]

Hi is going to do that. His friend wanted one real bad so son in law let him have it. All in agreement it should be checked. Have a good one.