Quickload help

[Jimbothepunk]

Hi

starting to load for my 223 ar and I've got some cfe223 I want to use could someone run some numbers through quickload form me please

dpms 16" barrel
.223
50 grain vmax
oal 2.19

thanks
lucas

 

[SSGSAD]

I am not very good at this, but I can't find cfe223.....

 

[oldpink]

Not from Quickload or a VMAX (Speer PSP), but www.loaddata.com has this data:

[SIZE=-1]Wt.[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]Bullet[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]Powder Manufacturer[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]Powder[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]Charge[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]Velocity (FPS)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]50[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]Speer SP[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]Hodgdon[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]CFE 223[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]27.0[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]3241[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Remarks: start load; COL: 2.210"; 41,500 psi[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]50[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]Speer SP[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]Hodgdon[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]CFE 223[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]28.5[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]3505[/SIZE]

 

[Jimbothepunk]

Thanks. Is 41 thou psi not to much for a ar? I have some quickload data for my socom and danger loads start at 30 thou?

cheers
lucas

 

[oldpink]

These are .223 Remington loads, which are rated by SAAMI as having lower pressure than 5.56mm ammo for ARs, so I'm sure these loads will be safe.
Naturally, you'll want to make your first loads with the starting data, then work your way up in increments.

 

[Jimbothepunk]

Awesome thanks mate

lucas

 

[shawnba67]

Holden has cfe223 data for the normal calibers too if you haven't found better cfe data

 

[trophyhunter]

Hi

starting to load for my 223 ar and I've got some cfe223 I want to use could someone run some numbers through quickload form me please

dpms 16" barrel
.223
50 grain vmax
oal 2.19

thanks
lucas

Here you go:

Cartridge          : .223 Rem. (SAAMI)Bullet             : .224, 50, Hornady V-MAX BT 22261
Useable Case Capaci: 25.181 grain H2O = 1.635 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.190 inch = 55.63 mm
Barrel Length      : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon CFE223


Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !


Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms


-20.0   79    20.40   2155     516   21296   6522     64.2    1.112
-18.0   81    20.91   2212     543   22690   6828     65.9    1.084
-16.0   83    21.42   2271     572   24185   7138     67.6    1.057
-14.0   85    21.93   2330     603   25789   7452     69.4    1.030
-12.0   87    22.44   2391     635   27511   7768     71.1    1.003
-10.0   89    22.95   2453     668   29359   8086     72.8    0.977
-08.0   91    23.46   2517     703   31352   8403     74.5    0.951
-06.0   93    23.97   2581     740   33497   8720     76.2    0.926
-04.0   95    24.48   2647     778   35808   9035     77.9    0.901
-02.0   97    24.99   2714     818   38303   9347     79.6    0.875
+00.0   99    25.50   2782     859   41000   9655     81.2    0.847
+02.0  101    26.01   2851     902   43920   9956     82.8    0.820
+04.0  103    26.52   2921     947   47083  10251     84.4    0.794  ! Near Maximum !
+06.0  105    27.03   2992     994   50522  10536     85.9    0.769  ! Near Maximum !
+08.0  106    27.54   3064    1042   54267  10812     87.4    0.744  ! Near Maximum !

 

[Jimbothepunk]

Thanks trophy sorry its taken me so long to got back to you

ive seen a thread on ar15.com where a guy is loading 27+ what do you think?


cheers


lucas

 

[trophyhunter]

Thanks trophy sorry its taken me so long to got back to you

ive seen a thread on ar15.com where a guy is loading 27+ what do you think?


cheers


lucas

If I still hunted P-Dogs I'd be looking to get velocities up to buck the wind right to the point where accuracy falls off, you're going to have to work up that load into the 27 grain range to see what your rifle likes best and that's closing in on the pressure ceiling of 55K.

You're giving up quite a bit of gas pressure to that short 16" barrel to realize the full potential of the round, but it should easily make better than 920m/s and still be under the pressure ceiling.

 

[Jimbothepunk]

Cool thanks

lucas