Rand Paul Announcing Run For The Presidential Nomination

[rambone]

Rand Paul vs. Bernie Sanders on the 'Right' to Health Care

[video]https://youtu.be/ug7fyAe2HeM[/video]

Rand points out that the 'Right' to health care necessarily means enslaving or conscripting providers. And he is absolutely right - if one man has a 'right' to my services, how can I have the 'right' to refuse?

He also points out that many doctors and medical facilities voluntarily offer care to people before investigating their ability to pay for it.

Bernie responds with multiple logical fallacies. Asking a doctor if she currently feels like a slave? This 'right' to health care is not currently enforced, how are her current 'feelings' relevant?

The liberals scored this one as a win for themselves, but I think Rand nailed it.

Rand is certainly correct. A more arguable point would have been to say that the false right to health care makes slaves out of the people who are forced to pay for it.

Then the follow up question might go like this: "Do you think the police might break down your door if you refuse to pay your Obamacare fines? Does that make you feel like a slave?"

 

[poptab]

Rand Paul vs. Bernie Sanders on the 'Right' to Health Care

[video]https://youtu.be/ug7fyAe2HeM[/video]

Rand points out that the 'Right' to health care necessarily means enslaving or conscripting providers. And he is absolutely right - if one man has a 'right' to my services, how can I have the 'right' to refuse?

He also points out that many doctors and medical facilities voluntarily offer care to people before investigating their ability to pay for it.

Bernie responds with multiple logical fallacies. Asking a doctor if she currently feels like a slave? This 'right' to health care is not currently enforced, how are her current 'feelings' relevant?

The liberals scored this one as a win for themselves, but I think Rand nailed it.

wow those people are nuts.

 

[level.eleven]

I'm trying to decide what is more funny.

Racist Randy getting taken to the woodshed or anarchists coming to his defense for tossing around dog whistles.

 

[jamil]

I'm trying to decide what is more funny.

Racist Randy getting taken to the woodshed or anarchists coming to his defense for tossing around dog whistles.

Oh look. Another progressive thinking his opinion is objective truth.

 

[steveh_131]

I'm trying to decide what is more funny.

Racist Randy getting taken to the woodshed or anarchists coming to his defense for tossing around dog whistles.

LOL Dog whistles? He's trying to educate the public on some simple logical truths. If you declare yourself the 'right' to another man's services, you are enslaving him.

'Taken to the woodshed'? He won that argument, by all logical standards.

You really do hear dog whistles everywhere you go, don't you.

 

[jamil]

LOL Dog whistles? He's trying to educate the public on some simple logical truths. If you declare yourself the 'right' to another man's services, you are enslaving him.

'Taken to the woodshed'? He won that argument, by all logical standards.

You really do hear dog whistles everywhere you go, don't you.

I think a social extremist is incapable of deciding the winner of an argument using logic as a standard.

 

[Cerberus]

I think a social extremist is incapable of deciding the winner of an argument using logic as a standard.

^^^And that is simple truth^^^

 

[poptab]

I'm trying to decide what is more funny.

Racist Randy getting taken to the woodshed or anarchists coming to his defense for tossing around dog whistles.

Ha you think healthcare is a right? That's rich.

 

[jamil]

Ha you think healthcare is a right? That's rich.

The minds of progressive social extremists are difficult to parse. Logic is replaced by whim.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Rand Says Republicans 'Created' ISIS | The Weekly Standard

 

[MisterChester]

Rand Says Republicans 'Created' ISIS | The Weekly Standard

He's right. The Hawks orchestrated the power vacuum.

 

[jbombelli]

He's right. The Hawks orchestrated the power vacuum.

He isn't right. Democrats voted for war too. They voted for it, later said they were against it, but continued funding it.

 

[MisterChester]

He isn't right. Democrats voted for war too. They voted for it, later said they were against it, but continued funding it.

Hawks doesn't mean just Republicans. Hillary voted for it and she's just as guilty.

 

[jbombelli]

Hawks doesn't mean just Republicans. Hillary voted for it and she's just as guilty.

True. But according to the posted headline Rand Paul is blaming the Republicans specifically. That makes him wrong.

 

[steveh_131]

But according to the posted headline Rand Paul is blaming the Republicans specifically. That makes him wrong.

If you read the context of the discussion, it was really focused around the Republican party. He pointed out the actions of the members of his party that contributed to it, that doesn't necessarily mean he is excluding those from the Democratic party from any part of the blame.

 

[Dead Duck]

If you read the context of the discussion, it was really focused around the Republican party. He pointed out the actions of the members of his parties that contributed to it, that doesn't necessarily mean he is excluding those from the Democratic party from any part of the blame.

Wait -
HIS Party?

So he's blaming the Libertarians too?

 

[steveh_131]

Rand is a Republican, last I checked.

 

[jamil]

Rand is a Republican, last I checked.

Listening to POTUS XM this afternoon, they spoke of an article that pretty much says Rand's bid is dead. He's running below Ben Carson in the polls. They basically said, the problem is, there aren't enough Democrats in the Republican party to vote for him. I think they're conflating some things, but they have a point. Not enough freedom loving people in the Republican party. Too many hawks and too many social conservatives. I think Rand would do better in the general election than just about any other republican. But it's doubtful he can win the primary.

 

[Cerberus]

Listening to POTUS XM this afternoon, they spoke of an article that pretty much says Rand's bid is dead. He's running below Ben Carson in the polls. They basically said, the problem is, there aren't enough Democrats in the Republican party to vote for him. I think they're conflating some things, but they have a point. Not enough freedom loving people in the Republican party. Too many hawks and too many social conservatives. I think Rand would do better in the general election than just about any other republican. But it's doubtful he can win the primary.

They are quoting a Washington Post article. He is still polling 4th in the field, or 3rd if you consider that 2nd place is a tie. We all know just which side the Washington ComPost leans.

 

[MisterChester]

Listening to POTUS XM this afternoon, they spoke of an article that pretty much says Rand's bid is dead. He's running below Ben Carson in the polls. They basically said, the problem is, there aren't enough Democrats in the Republican party to vote for him. I think they're conflating some things, but they have a point. Not enough freedom loving people in the Republican party. Too many hawks and too many social conservatives. I think Rand would do better in the general election than just about any other republican. But it's doubtful he can win the primary.

Unfortuneately that might be the case. I can see Rand doing very well in New Hampshire, and that's one of the few boosts a candidate can get. I don't trust Iowa as much because they picked Huckaderp and Santorum.