Republicans vote in favor of nearly 3 trillion in new debt tonight

[Prometheus]

and all the press has to talk about is giffords showing up to vote for the bill...

News from The Associated Press

Edit to add, even if they had made a deal and increased the debt just a little, they could have made it an ELECTION issue. They just gave obama a PASS on the debt and stuck it on the next president and congress. f' them!

 

[Fletch]

Supposedly there's a difference between the two parties...

 

[Prometheus]

Kudlow report immediate aftermath interviews-

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxnnMH5O-1M[/ame]

 

[TopDog]

Supposedly there's a difference between the two parties...

There is a difference between the two. Their names are spelled differently, that's about it.

 

[88GT]

Devil's advocate: what transpires when the Republicans sabotage the bill and nothing is done?

 

[nawainwright]

Kudlow report immediate aftermath interviews-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxnnMH5O-1M

This clip is not from today's vote.

 

[Vince49]

Solutions?

Devil's advocate: what transpires when the Republicans sabotage the bill and nothing is done?

Good question. Inquiring minds want to know. What would be your solution short of shutting everything down and bringing about the apocalypse everyone on here is talking about sooner rather than later?

Just asking.

 

[J_Wales]

Absolutely disgusting what we are letting our political representatives do to our republic.

I'm in the process of reading a biography of John Adams.... it is truly sad how far we have strayed from our founding principles.

 

[Prometheus]

Good question. Inquiring minds want to know. What would be your solution short of shutting everything down and bringing about the apocalypse everyone on here is talking about sooner rather than later?

Just asking.

Stop parroting the lies of the main stream media. You sound like Chris Mathews.

Nothing would 'shut down'. Limiting a some services now and scaling back NOW is far more preferential than a complete meltdown down the road.

Unless you are about to die and could care less about the country and any children/nephews/nieces or family that will be around to deal with your "pass the buck to the next guy because I won't have to deal with it" mentality.

I plan on being alive for a few more decades and I actually care about my children's future.

 

[rambone]

When your Federal Reserve Notes aren't worth the paper they're printed on, just be glad that we didn't "default". Thanks Republicans!

 

[rambone]

I have to ask...

What if 100% Democrats were responsible for raising the debt ceiling? Then we'd be hearing all this about how "Demoncrats" are plotting to collapse the country and implement communism. When Republicans do the same damn thing in overwhelming numbers, the excuses come out of the woodwork for why we should forgive them; they had to do it.

Frankly I think both parties at large are hell-bent on turning me into a debt slave.

 

[Vince49]

Stop parroting the lies of the main stream media. You sound like Chris Mathews.

Nothing would 'shut down'. Limiting a some services now and scaling back NOW is far more preferential than a complete meltdown down the road.

Unless you are about to die and could care less about the country and any children/nephews/nieces or family that will be around to deal with your "pass the buck to the next guy because I won't have to deal with it" mentality.

I plan on being alive for a few more decades and I actually care about my children's future.

Not parroting lies. I can come up with some whoppers of my own thank you! And that is more or less what I was asking you to do. I am wanting to hear specifically what reductions in which services you would make and exactly how you would go about it. I am hoping someone has that kind of answer so that it can be communicated to those who will implement it.

 

[hornadylnl]

Oh well, I kind of like Chinese food. Hopefully every day will be a buffet.

Who is John Galt? He'll fix what the repubs refuse to.

 

[45fan]

Reductions anywhere in the governments budget will be unpopular with one group or another. The biggest problem I see is the longer they cutbacks are put off, the more dependent those groups will be on taxpayers money, the cut backs will have to be even more dramatic to have similar effect, and the more groups of people will be effected. The government machine has been out of control for far too long for things to be changed overnight, but if there isnt a course correction soon, the entire thing will go over the edge.

 

[hornadylnl]

Here's the new republican theme song.

In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
Butane in my veins and I’m out to cut the junkie
With the plastic eyeballs, spray-paint the vegetables
Dog food stalls with the beefcake pantyhose
Kill the headlights and put it in neutral
Stock car flamin’ with a loser and the cruise control
Baby’s in reno with the vitamin d
Got a couple of couches, sleep on the love-seat
Someone came sayin’ I’m insane to complain
About a shotgun wedding and a stain on my shirt
Don’t believe everything that you breathe
You get a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve
So shave your face with some mace in the dark
Savin’ all your food stamps and burnin’ down the trailer park

Yo. cut it.

Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?

(double barrel buckshot)
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?

Forces of evil on a bozo nightmare
Ban all the music with a phony gas chamber
’cuz one’s got a weasel and the other’s got a flag
One’s on the pole, shove the other in a bag
With the rerun shows and the cocaine nose-job
The daytime crap of the folksinger slob
He hung himself with a guitar string
A slab of turkey-neck and it’s hangin’ from a pigeon wing
You can’t write if you can’t relate
Trade the cash for the beef for the body for the hate
And my time is a piece of wax fallin’ on a termite
who's chokin’ on the splinters

Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(get crazy with the cheese whiz)
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(drive-by body-pierce)
(yo bring it on down)
Soooooyy....

?em llik uoy t'nod yhw os ,ybab resol a m'I rodedreP nu yos
[It's the Chorus backwards]

(I’m a driver, I’m a winner; things are gonna change I can feel it)

Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(I can’t believe you)
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(Nlehh...)
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?
(Sprechen Sie Deutsch hier, Baby!)
Soy un perdedor
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me?

 

[Bapak2ja]

Well, at least Marlin Stutzman held the line. Now if voters in other districts would dump the fools who voted for this mess we could make some more progress.

I expect that to happen when the sun rises in the west.

 

[Stschil]

Good question. Inquiring minds want to know. What would be your solution short of shutting everything down and bringing about the apocalypse everyone on here is talking about sooner rather than later?

Just asking.

Devil's advocate: what transpires when the Republicans sabotage the bill and nothing is done?

The problem is that there is absolutely nothing that the present system CAN do that will fix things. America is so deeply mired in the tar pits of deficit spending that no amount of cut backs will get us out.

So I'm my mind, we really only have two options. To accept things as they are, join the flock and "Hope" things will get better or to prepare ourselves to live outside of the system and let the sheep follow each other off the cliff.
America was better off in the 30's when it happened then. If the Givernment hadn't stepped in to "save" us, we would have been better off now. As it is, many people have been condemned to death, they just don't know it yet. The longer this mess is allowed to continue, the more people will suffer and die.

 

[hondatech2k2]

Absolutely disgusting what we are letting our political representatives do to our republic.

I'm in the process of reading a biography of John Adams.... it is truly sad how far we have strayed from our founding principles.

Man I am telling you..... if those great men were alive today they would slap our teeth out of our mouths for what we are doing.... shame on us. I was told a little saying when I was younger: "Wrong me once, shame on you... Wrong me twice, shame on me." Seems History is repeating itself yet again.... Tyranny is abound, recklessness is aplenty, and a simple decision takes a month to decide...and then is completely against what the people want. I have to say, I am ashamed of this country....

 

[AllenM]

This is great news!!! Now we can move on to printing more money.

 

[Pocketman]

"Governor" Mike Pence:

"I will tell them for the first time in 15 years this congress is embracing spending cuts. For the first time in history we will marry a debt ceiling increase with matching spending cuts. And I will tell them that we did all of that without raising taxes and I believe all of that will lay a foundation and a beginning upon which we can not only restore final solvency to the national government but begin to promote policies that will create jobs in Indiana and all across the country."