Rick Perry on Constitutional Carry

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Rick Perry is....one of...."them"....

Former Gov. Rick Perry Kills TX Constitutional Carry, Presidential Aspirations? - The Truth About Guns

 

[mrjarrell]

And there are people right here on INGO that will cast a vote for this cretin come the primaries. Gun Rights be damned.

 

[MCgrease08]

I'm a little bit confused by this since the article seems to be a mashup of issues regarding open carry with a little bit of constitutional carry thrown in. Must they be a single issue?

It seems to me a state could allowed constitutional concealed carry and then tackle the issue of OC separately. Or, does constitutional carry man that by definition one must bare arms openly?

 

[level0]

Texas has a reputation as a gun-friendly state, which is completely the opposite of true.

Go OCT!

 

[Bill of Rights]

And there are people right here on INGO that will cast a vote for this cretin come the primaries. Gun Rights be damned.

We all know that no matter how much we wish it was not true, the people with (D) and (R) at the end of their names will be the two from whom the next President will be chosen. No Constitution Party, Libertarian, or any other is going to win that office.

In no way am I saying that Perry is a good choice. I'm also not saying he's a bad choice. I'm saying only that he's a possible choice the GOP might put up.

So, mrj, I have to ask, if the choice comes down to him or Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or some other Republican you hate (which from all appearances is "all of them") what do you plan to do?

Vote Hillary?

Blessings,
Bill

 

[mrjarrell]

We all know that no matter how much we wish it was not true, the people with (D) and (R) at the end of their names will be the two from whom the next President will be chosen. No Constitution Party, Libertarian, or any other is going to win that office.

In no way am I saying that Perry is a good choice. I'm also not saying he's a bad choice. I'm saying only that he's a possible choice the GOP might put up.

So, mrj, I have to ask, if the choice comes down to him or Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or some other Republican you hate (which from all appearances is "all of them") what do you plan to do?

Vote Hillary?

Blessings,
Bill

I plan to cast principled vote for a candidate that I do agree (mostly) with. Like it or not there WILL be other choices on Indiana's presidential ballot in the general election. If there is no-one I like on there then I will write in NONE OF The ABOVE and cast that as my vote.

I won't be voting for Hillary, either. But, I certainly would never cast a vote for a Christie, Jindal, Bush or other turd. Fortunately, I have choices, whether I cast for a winner or not.

 

[bradmedic04]

He needs to have a long conversation with ATM.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

He needs to have a long conversation with ATM.

His opinion is way too common among good people that folks around here would otherwise, mostly agree with. Heck, his opinion probably aligns with a sizable portion of INGO membership.

 

[KLB]

I'm a little bit confused by this since the article seems to be a mashup of issues regarding open carry with a little bit of constitutional carry thrown in. Must they be a single issue?

It seems to me a state could allowed constitutional concealed carry and then tackle the issue of OC separately. Or, does constitutional carry man that by definition one must bare arms openly?

Constitutional carry would mean no laws restricting the right to carry a weapon. How could you outlaw OC in that scenario?

 

[MCgrease08]

Constitutional carry would mean no laws restricting the right to carry a weapon. How could you outlaw OC in that scenario?

Yeah I guess that makes sense. Not sure how I missed that.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Constitutional carry would mean no laws restricting the right to carry a weapon. How could you outlaw OC in that scenario?

Ummm....not so fast....Constitutional carry will only mean what is written into law. The CC law that was offered up in Indiana this year was silent on the method of carry but that was, I think, a continuation/extension of our current LTCH language. But even so, our CC laws would have exceptions and there's no reason why another state's couldn't have them in carry method.

 

[Maximinus Thrax]

Thank you, Oh great and merciful Rick Perry for the PRIVILEGE of carrying our firearms in accordance with the Constitution of the United States!

wait a minute...

 

[HamYankee]

It's disappointing to read things like that. Politicians rarely separate their personal views from what they think the law should be, or what the Constitution says.

 

[GIJEW]

I plan to cast principled vote for a candidate that I do agree (mostly) with. Like it or not there WILL be other choices on Indiana's presidential ballot in the general election. If there is no-one I like on there then I will write in NONE OF The ABOVE and cast that as my vote.

I won't be voting for Hillary, either. But, I certainly would never cast a vote for a Christie, Jindal, Bush or other turd. Fortunately, I have choices, whether I cast for a winner or not.

What do you have against Jindal? Maybe I've overlooked part of his record.

 

[mrjarrell]

What do you have against Jindal? Maybe I've overlooked part of his record.

He's bankrupted his state. Went from a surplus to a billion dollar deficit. Can't trust an idiot who cannot do simple mathematics to run to the country. And he's a dominionist to boot. Won't vote for a person like that under any circumstances.

 

[Dosproduction]

We all know that no matter how much we wish it was not true, the people with (D) and (R) at the end of their names will be the two from whom the next President will be chosen. No Constitution Party, Libertarian, or any other is going to win that office.

In no way am I saying that Perry is a good choice. I'm also not saying he's a bad choice. I'm saying only that he's a possible choice the GOP might put up.

So, mrj, I have to ask, if the choice comes down to him or Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or some other Republican you hate (which from all appearances is "all of them") what do you plan to do?

Vote Hillary?

Blessings,
Bill

This is the ABSOLUTE worst way to vote. When you pick the lesser of two evils you still end up with evil. You should always vote for the best man for the job. Not the most likly to win. According to your own ideas of voting YOU should have voted for Obama last time. Mitt Romney never stood a chance against him so he had the only chance of winning. That is how much your method makes sense.

I tell people to think of it like this. You are planning for if you die who will raise your children. Two people are SUGGESTED to you one is a child molester and the other killed one of his kids cause he was mad. Now you COULD pick from these two evil men that where suggested to you or you could do the right thing and find a suitable father to raise your kids in case you die.

This senerio fits well because when you pick these Democrats and Republicans it is your childrens future you are voting on. Wether this country will be in debt so far they go bankrupt and/or having no Liberty left because of who you voted for or do you want them to live free and live in a great country.

You have the choice evil or good. It is that simple. When someone wants to destroy the thing they swear a oath to protect they are EVIL. When they want to ensure freedom and Liberty they are Good.

 

[level0]

Mitt Romney never stood a chance against him....

Not to nitpick or derail, but after their first debate I thought Romney was solidly in a position to win. Then Romney laid down for the following debates and as you note, it was all over.

 

[Thor]

The article is a bit misleading, saying he kicked dirt in the grave of constitutional carry...perhaps they didn't notice he's the FORMER governor. His comments are interesting in defining who he is (and a hater of firearms he is not) not what is the policy in TX today.

 

[arthrimus]

Ummm....not so fast....Constitutional carry will only mean what is written into law. The CC law that was offered up in Indiana this year was silent on the method of carry but that was, I think, a continuation/extension of our current LTCH language. But even so, our CC laws would have exceptions and there's no reason why another state's couldn't have them in carry method.

No, constitutional carry is the removal of laws that restrict the carry of firearms. If there are exceptions then it is no longer constitutional carry, even if it is a looser law than currently exists.

 

[Alamo]

TTAG is full of wind. Rick Perry was and is overall a popular guy in Texas, but he is no longer governor and has very little, if any, influence on the Legislature.

OCT and OCTC killed unlicensed open carry in Texas. They almost certainly mortally wounded licensed open carry as well, and if by some miracle it does get through, it will be despite them, not because of them (the only way they could help at this point is sit down and shut up). OCT and OCTC basically took the caricatures of gun owners perpetrated by bloombergists and made them come to life.