Riley Hospital Concealed Carry

[Gaffer]

Thanks to everyone for their insight and prayers.

The young man’s stay was very short and he is home with mom and dad and growing like a weed.

Well.. that is the best news of the day! Sounds like prayers answered!

Ron

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Ran by does not equal penal facility. And just that ward or the entire place? And once again the legislature seems to agree with my interpretation since they allowed marion county to place a local ordinance on carry inside the hospital.

In my experience it applies to the entire facility. Ran into that when I had to take DoggyMama to Methodist when she broke her ankle. We were going to the ER, but no weapons were allowed. They wouldn't even let me enter with my empty holster. I suspect Eskanazi is the same.

 

[wcd]

In my experience it applies to the entire facility. Ran into that when I had to take DoggyMama to Methodist when she broke her ankle. We were going to the ER, but no weapons were allowed. They wouldn't even let me enter with my empty holster. I suspect Eskanazi is the same.

I Would have asked wwjd?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

In my experience it applies to the entire facility. Ran into that when I had to take DoggyMama to Methodist when she broke her ankle. We were going to the ER, but no weapons were allowed. They wouldn't even let me enter with my empty holster. I suspect Eskanazi is the same.

No firearms by policy doesn't equal no firearms by law. I'm sure Eskanzi is no firearms by policy, so is the local to me IU Hospital, but I'm not breaking the law to carry into it. I'm also sure that Marion county has passed an ordinance prohibiting carry into Eskanzi. But as I stated above, that is a civil (albiet probably quite expensive) penalty rather than a criminal one.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

No firearms by policy doesn't equal no firearms by law. I'm sure Eskanzi is no firearms by policy, so is the local to me IU Hospital, but I'm not breaking the law to carry into it. I'm also sure that Marion county has passed an ordinance prohibiting carry into Eskanzi. But as I stated above, that is a civil (albiet probably quite expensive) penalty rather than a criminal one.

No, it's not just policy. It's law. If they have a secured wing for prisoners (or criminals shot in the commission of a crime, etc.), it's considered part of the correctional system. At least that's my understanding. Since Eskanazi is used to treat criminals shot by cops, I'm pretty sure it's considered to be part of corrections, and therefore carry is prohibited by law.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

No, it's not just policy. It's law. If they have a secured wing for prisoners (or criminals shot in the commission of a crime, etc.), it's considered part of the correctional system. At least that's my understanding. Since Eskanazi is used to treat criminals shot by cops, I'm pretty sure it's considered to be part of corrections, and therefore carry is prohibited by law.

If so and the legislature considered it so, there would have been no reason for them to include the exemption to the prememtion for it. Yes they take prisoners there to be treated, the local county jail also takes prisoners to my local library to do work. IMO and IANAL neither one makes it a penal facility.
ETA here is the IC definition for penal facility.
Sec. 232. "Penal facility" means a state prison, correctional facility, county jail, penitentiary, house of correction, or any other facility for confinement of persons under sentence, or awaiting trial or sentence, for offenses. The term includes a correctional facility constructed under IC 4-13.5.

 

[freekforge]

I got an esee izula by the metal detector at the riley er by accident. When I realized I had done it I tossed around the idea oftelling them or not and decided to go ahead and let them know their metal detector is junk. Officer at the door seemed fairly incompetent, not like the other tier 2 officers I've been around

 

[actaeon277]

I got an esee izula by the metal detector at the riley er by accident. When I realized I had done it I tossed around the idea oftelling them or not and decided to go ahead and let them know their metal detector is junk. Officer at the door seemed fairly incompetent, not like the other tier 2 officers I've been around

Basic human psychology is that after so many false alarms, they will change the calibration lighter.