School Zone carrying question

[RickyG]

I live very close to 2 high schools and they are both near shopping centers/gas stations. My question is; if I have my firearm on me while I go into a gas station or a store that is within 1,000 feet of a school, am I breaking the law? I can't seem to find much clarity on the interwebs.

Also, there is a bike trail that runs all throughout the city. Sometimes I ride my bike to work and one of the trails goes directly through a high schools back parking lot. Am I allowed to carry if I am riding through and don't get off of my bike? Not sure if the bicycle would technically be considered my vehicle.

 

[eldirector]

The federal 1000-foot rule has an exception for legally licensed/permitted carry. Look in "exceptions" here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun-Free_School_Zones_Act_of_1990

I suspect the bike trail is a grey area, without knowing more. If it is indeed a public right-of-way, then passing through should be fine, same as any other street/sidewalk. If it is school property, then those rules apply.

 

[RickyG]

Cool, thank you.

It's the River Green Way in Fort Wayne. From their website; "The Rivergreenway is owned and maintained by the Fort Wayne Parks and Recreation Department, the City of Fort Wayne Public Works Department, and the New Haven/Adams Township Parks & Recreation Department"

 

[Bill of Rights]

I suspect that would put it under 35-47-11.1, as a political subdivision of the state, and thus exempt from any local law. State-level law, such as school zones, would still be applicable, but that covers property that the school corporation owns or operates. Does sound like a very gray area, from the perspective of someone who doesn't know that area. (me, in this case!)

Good on you for checking it out. A local attorney might be able to tell you with more authority/knowledge. Better safe than sorry.

Blessings,
Bill

Cool, thank you.

It's the River Green Way in Fort Wayne. From their website; "The Rivergreenway is owned and maintained by the Fort Wayne Parks and Recreation Department, the City of Fort Wayne Public Works Department, and the New Haven/Adams Township Parks & Recreation Department"

 

[Thegeek]

I'd go around the school property.... on the opposite side of the street.

 

[Bill B]

Your county gis site should be able to show you the legal ownership of all the property of the bike path and if there are any easements.

 

[KittySlayer]

Am I allowed to carry if I am riding through and don't get off of my bike? Not sure if the bicycle would technically be considered my vehicle.

I believe the school ground exception specifically refers to locked inside a motor vehicle. So even creates a gray area for motorcycles too.

Personally I just ride on the road in those situations but the drivers can get incredulous if you don't use the bike path. After the hit and run murder Monday I may start to open carry.

 

[Joniki]

I believe the school ground exception specifically refers to locked inside a motor vehicle. So even creates a gray area for motorcycles too.

Personally I just ride on the road in those situations but the drivers can get incredulous if you don't use the bike path. After the hit and run murder Monday I may start to open carry.

It was my understanding the weapon only needed to be locked if you exit the vehicle. Picking up or dropping off and as long as you stay in your vehicle, no special considerations apply.

 

[level0]

It was my understanding the weapon only needed to be locked if you exit the vehicle. Picking up or dropping off and as long as you stay in your vehicle, no special considerations apply.

You are correct.

 

[IndianaSoloMcfly]

Interesting, their is a church sitting on what i would call school property, would the church be considered private property because it is owned by the church? The school is in a seperate building from the school but i would place it within 1000 feet

 

[eldirector]

Interesting, their is a church sitting on what i would call school property, would the church be considered private property because it is owned by the church? The school is in a seperate building from the school but i would place it within 1000 feet

County GIS will tell you for sure.

Is it is church with a private school, or a church and a public school?

If the first, then the property is likely only parcel, and both buildings and the common areas are "owned in kind", and therefor considered one entity - a school.

 

[IndianaSoloMcfly]

Here is a picture, edited to remove street names and adressed for anonymity is this church part of a school sone? Their is a school on the other side as well to the south of the church.

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[eldirector]

Just post the name/address. Not like it is some super secret government facility. Can't tell who own's what from that pic.

 

[IndianaSoloMcfly]

503 S high street bloomington IN is the address of the church, how do you find this information? Is there a website or something you may be able to link?

 

[eldirector]

503 S high street bloomington IN is the address of the church, how do you find this information? Is there a website or something you may be able to link?

eGIS by 39 DEGREES NORTH
Search by address.

503 S. High Street is owned by the Evangelical Church. The building to the north is owned by Roman Catholic Archdiocese Of Indianapolis Properties. Two completely different entities. Additionally, they do not seem to be connected in any way, shape, or form. No shared parking, no sidewalks.

IMHO, they are two completely distinct properties. One is a school (the Archdiocese), and the other a Church. Not a school by IC, unless there is something else I don't know about.