SCOTUS decision that could possibly lead to a foundation for ending ATF tyranny.

[KG1]

SCOTUS unanimously issued a decision in another case unrelated to the ATF but it could lay the foundation for an argument to end ATF's practice of ambiguous interpretations.

 

[Mgderf]

OUT-****ING-STANDING!

 

[KG1]

OUT-****ING-STANDING!

Hopefully this decision will carry over. Just have to get the argument into a specific case against the ATF before the SCOTUS.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I‘ll be over here trying to not get my hopes up.

 

[jsx1043]

I‘ll be over here trying to not get my hopes up.

Same here. Statists gonna state.

However, on the hopium side of things, here’s hoping that Bruen and this case are the one-two punch needed to start setting things right.

 

[BigRed]

SCOTUS unanimously issued a decision in another case unrelated to the ATF but it could lay the foundation for an argument to end ATF's practice of ambiguous interpretations.

Time will tell.

atf likes the ability to issue decrees according to what it believes is in its best political interest. It has no place under the constitution of the States.

It should be abolished and tossed where it belongs.....on the ash heap of history.

atf can go straight to Hell for all I care.

 

[edwea]

A little light on the ****'s tonight Big Red. Feeling OK?

 

[Amishman44]

Avoid the vagueness and be specific...is the only way to write and then interpret a law!

 

[KLB]

Avoid the vagueness and be specific...is the only way to write and then interpret a law!

Congress has been lazy. They purposefully have written laws vaguely, and allowed the agencies to interpret.

 

[KG1]

Congress has been lazy. They purposefully have written laws vaguely, and allowed the agencies to interpret.

It's like the legislation that passed is open ended and then the ATF ( a non legislative body btw) is allowed to add to that legislation at will or to interpret things in such a way as to try and fit an accessory into the definition of a prohibited item outlined in the legislation to make it prohibited also.

Such as classifying bump stocks as a machine gun as one example.

 

[KLB]

It's like the legislation that passed is open ended and then the ATF ( a non legislative body btw) is allowed to add to that legislation at will or to interpret things in such a way as to try and fit an accessory into the definition of a prohibited item outlined in the legislation to make it prohibited also.

Such as classifying bump stocks as a machine gun as one example.

Honestly, I do not think that one was ambiguous at all. They just said it was. I imagine if they get that case up to the USSC, they will lose.

It's the more recent laws that have gotten to be so bad.

 

[printcraft]

A little light on the ****'s tonight Big Red. Feeling OK?

There is a * shortage, supply chain issues.

 

[manifest destiny]

Bureaucracies in general need reigned in. I didn't vote for a bureaucracy and the legislators use them for compliance and control. Or maybe they're just ****ing lazy. Either way, vague laws with morphing interpretations from unelected bureaucrats must end. The O'Great One had the epa claiming rights to puddles on private property. ****ing puddles. The epa claimed rights to rain puddles. Overreach. The atf should be a convenience store - if it must exist at all.

 

[jwamplerusa]

The atf should be a convenience store - if it must exist at all.

^^^^^^^ this. If the ATF actually operated within the bounds of the Constitution, it would be a place the poor could aquire the arms they needed when they ascended to the unorganized militia so they were equipped to perform there duties if called upon.

 

[BigRed]

Bureaucracies in general need reigned in. I didn't vote for a bureaucracy and the legislators use them for compliance and control. Or maybe they're just ****ing lazy. Either way, vague laws with morphing interpretations from unelected bureaucrats must end. The O'Great One had the epa claiming rights to puddles on private property. ****ing puddles. The epa claimed rights to rain puddles. Overreach. The atf should be a convenience store - if it must exist at all.

The central state needs to be dissolved.