scrap yard that will take old brass and primers

[TheGrumpyGuy]

Solid copper hollowpoints are okay in handguns though.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1657168239

According to the info on that page, the products been discontinued? Hard to tell when that link was last actually valid

 

[t-squared]

He is correct, solid brass or copper handgun rounds are considered armor piercing and are not legal. This changes when they are used in rifles which led to a lot of confusion. It all comes from a flurry of legislation years ago about "cop killer bullets" and "Teflon coated' ammunition.

Most of the data that produced this legislation came from big media in the 80s, along with the term "cop killer bullets"

Most of the federal push on this came from Mario Biaggi, representative from New York who was later convicted on several corruption charges.

Riggs knew all about them.....[video=youtube;-c1mzkAtHPI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c1mzkAtHPI[/video]

 

[1775usmarine]

I do have 5 rounds of the PMC tubular 38spl in my possession.

 

[Leadeye]

Some of the steam behind this law is running out, it really was a lot of media hype in the beginning as for all the furor, it was hard to find any police actually injured by these projectiles. Early on it was pointed out that the vests of the 80s weren't stopping rifle ammo at all so there was some question about how much use the statute would be.

I remember it well as a lot of the NFA community shot steel 9mm and the ATF hadn't made a decision on those rounds at the time. We all had "9mm parties " where we shot up most all we had before disposition.

The law is still on the books however, and I would imagine that if anybody tried to repeal it they would be met with hysterical media howls about the threat to police.

 

[DadSmith]

Some of the steam behind this law is running out, it really was a lot of media hype in the beginning as for all the furor, it was hard to find any police actually injured by these projectiles. Early on it was pointed out that the vests of the 80s weren't stopping rifle ammo at all so there was some question about how much use the statute would be.

I remember it well as a lot of the NFA community shot steel 9mm and the ATF hadn't made a decision on those rounds at the time. We all had "9mm parties " where we shot up most all we had before disposition.

The law is still on the books however, and I would imagine that if anybody tried to repeal it they would be met with hysterical media howls about the threat to police.

Thanks for clearing that up. There goes an idea to use scrap brass and copper. I bet solid brass handgun slugs would work great on bear. Should have plenty of penetration. Alas its illegal.

 

[singlestacksig]

i don't really care about the price, and I at this moment don't have any ready to go to scrap I was just reloading and got thinking about what am I going to do with my bucket of rejects.
I already sort down range collected stuff to anything usable. the largest weight is always the spent primers. and last year I had probably 5 gallons of spent primers . I think it was like 30 lb

I know brass and copper is a strategic metal so I'd like to see it recycled.
and solid copper handgun rounds are still allowed.
copper is not normally armor piercing.

 

[red_zr24x4]

I have the same issue in SE Indiana and the Tri-state area. I have lots of 22 brass that I want to recycle. I don't care if I get nothing in return. Just trying to be a good steward and recycle. I reload my other brass so that's why I only have 22LR to recycle but none of the recycling centers near me will take it due to liability. I also have steel 7.62 cases that I would like to recycle to keep them out of the landfills but same deal - no takers from the recycling centers near me.

There's a company out there that makes a press for turning. 22 into 223 jackets, 9's into 40's and 40's into 45's ...just can't remember they're name. And if I remember correctly its kinda salty

 

[Clay Pigeon]

There's a company out there that makes a press for turning. 22 into 223 jackets, 9's into 40's and 40's into 45's ...just can't remember they're name. And if I remember correctly its kinda salty

Corbins.com

 

[churchmouse]

Some of the steam behind this law is running out, it really was a lot of media hype in the beginning as for all the furor, it was hard to find any police actually injured by these projectiles. Early on it was pointed out that the vests of the 80s weren't stopping rifle ammo at all so there was some question about how much use the statute would be.

I remember it well as a lot of the NFA community shot steel 9mm and the ATF hadn't made a decision on those rounds at the time. We all had "9mm parties " where we shot up most all we had before disposition.

The law is still on the books however, and I would imagine that if anybody tried to repeal it they would be met with hysterical media howls about the threat to police.

You mean the very same MSM that is hot on the "Defund" side of the police thing right now.

 

[russc2542]

You mean the very same MSM that is hot on the "Defund" side of the police thing right now.

Anything for a headline.

Logic has no place in the news.

 

[Leadeye]

It's been one of those "fuzzy" laws since it's inception, pretty much depends on the most recent interpretation of the ammunition and it's potential to be fired in a handgun. Not something you would want to be a test case for.

 

[BGDave]

I have been remiss in my post on brass pricing. Very important to sort out ALL nickel plated, aluminum, and of course steel cases as the price drops under a $ per # when it's considered mixed or dirty. And they have very sharp eyes for that stuff.

 

[Clay Pigeon]

It's been one of those "fuzzy" laws since it's inception, pretty much depends on the most recent interpretation of the ammunition and it's potential to be fired in a handgun. Not something you would want to be a test case for.

Wasn't that with the Teflon coated handgun ammo?

 

[masterdekoy]

Back on the solid copper HG ammo, Corbon's DPX is a solid copper bullet. 115gr 9mm.

 

[Sniper 79]

My local is paying over a dollar per pound right now. It's worth kicking the garbage can over at the range and filling a bucket.

 

[singlestacksig]

My local is paying over a dollar per pound right now. It's worth kicking the garbage can over at the range and filling a bucket.

where? do they take spent primers?

 

[Sniper 79]

Yes they take spent primers and aluminum case.

I'm in Lowell 46356

 

[Leadeye]

Wasn't that with the Teflon coated handgun ammo?

Yes it was, KTW, named after the initials of the inventors. The hysteria started there with a big media ginned up news documentary about the KTW specifically and spread to anything that might be considered capable of penetrating a vest.

 

[Hkindiana]

RIP handgun ammo has solid copper bullets, and is STILL being manufactured AND marketed

 

[Leadeye]

RIP handgun ammo has solid copper bullets, and is STILL being manufactured AND marketed

Very true and if I remember correctly it was designed and advertised as not being an effective penetration bullet for body armor. The law back in the 80s was a good example of the big government hammer responding to a non existent problem reacting to sensationalism from big media. As time has gone by people realized this, just like the fact that you can't easily ignite cars explosively unless you use road flares as ignition sources for the TV demonstration.

The law unfortunately, like many is still on the books. It's the reason I won't mess with anything resembling those bullets, I don't want to be an ATF test case.