Seattle Pays 10 Mil For Body Slam

[Kirk Freeman]

The City of Seattle, Washington pays ten million dollars to the victim of an assault that attracted attention here at INGO. No word on potential criminal charges.

Horrific case, I wish the family well.

Local News | $10M settlement for man shoved into wall by King Co. deputy; jurors react to video | Seattle Times Newspaper

 

[rambone]

This case makes me sick. The lawsuit originated at $25M. Criminal charges would show some real justice in this case.

Link to original thread;

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ate_after_mistaken_identity_with_the_law.html

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5qlg-EDFCE]YouTube - Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer[/ame]

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Paul and fellow Deputy Joseph Eshom were wearing black tactical uniforms, not traditional deputy uniforms

I really hate this dress up crap. I know everyone wants to be a ninja but give me a blue uniform, black dress shdoes and a Sam Browne.

Osborn said the timing of the settlement — hours after a paramedic testified Monday that Eshom told him Harris had run headfirst into the wall — was no coincidence. But Cobb said mediation talks have been ongoing and the paramedic's testimony — and Paul's expected testimony — had no bearing on the settlement.

Ouch.

In a statement, King County Sheriff Sue Rahr expressed her "sincerest condolences and apologies" to Harris and his family

How about training your people not to do this instead?

I hope training is changed so that this horrific incident does not transpire again.

 

[phylodog]

I really hate this dress up crap. I know everyone wants to be a ninja but give me a blue uniform, black dress shdoes and a Sam Browne.

I'm sure you would be more than comfortable wearing that while sitting in a courtroom. Ever tried chasing someone in that garb? Climbing a fence? Rolling around on the ground? Who do you think pays for the uniforms? If you've never checked, they're not cheap and there is no reimbursement for tearing your uniform.

How about training your people not to do this instead?

I'm sure they will create a mandatory training for their entire department which consists of showing this video and someone saying "Don't do this". Should that really be necessary or should they hire people who have the common sense to not do something like that in the first place?

I hope training is changed so that this horrific incident does not transpire again.

See above

My condolences to the victim and his family. Hopefully the settlement will help, hopefully he will recover somehow.

 

[firehawk1]

This case makes me sick. The lawsuit originated at $25M. Criminal charges would show some real justice in this case.

I agree, the thug who body slammed him is out nothing. The city of Seattle is paying for his crime. Criminal charges should be filed against him.

 

[Benny]

$10 million? GTFO.

If Chris Harris was my family I would not be able to rest until justice has been served.

You can't put a price on a life and Chris' life is over.

That thug needs to be locked up in jail until his life is over.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Ever tried chasing someone in that garb? Climbing a fence? Rolling around on the ground? Who do you think pays for the uniforms? If you've never checked, they're not cheap and there is no reimbursement for tearing your uniform.

If only there was an enormous pool of law enforcement money where officers could go to buy uniforms. You know, like a big room filled with money? If only, if only, if only . . . .

Oh, wait, there is! Four Million Dollars!

Nope, never chased anyone (tried to run from a dog with wing tips once, but lucky for me a Park Avenue prevented me from shooting it), but I do think that having police dress like police, instead of wannabe gangstas/ninjas/very special forces in black, helps prevent confusion in cases such as this and gets officers to focus on being police officers. However, that's just my opinion.

Should that really be necessary or should they hire people who have the common sense to not do something like that in the first place?

I'd argue both.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Benny, I think if I were related to Mr. Harris I would be campaigning hard to remove the sitting prosecutor. You're not going to get anywhere wihout an election there.

 

[phylodog]

If only there was an enormous pool of law enforcement money where officers could go to buy uniforms. You know, like a big room filled with money? If only, if only, if only . . . .

Oh, wait, there is! Four Million Dollars!

Nope, never chased anyone (tried to run from a dog with wing tips once, but lucky for me a Park Avenue prevented me from shooting it), but I do think that having police dress like police, instead of wannabe gangstas/ninjas/very special forces in black, helps prevent confusion in cases such as this and gets officers to focus on being police officers. However, that's just my opinion.



I'd argue both.

You can scream about that 4 million dollars all you want. Officers have to buy their own uniforms on IMPD.

What confusion was caused in this case that would have been avoided if the officer was dressed like Barney Fife?

 

[ol' trucker]

We lose a good cop in Dave.then you see this a## bag,and his superior..."It is a tragic accident,and nothing more" and just makes you sick. man it would be nice to be able to switch places with people. Hopefully other officers in their department accidently don't show up for backup when one of them need it. because neither one of them need to be in any kind of law enforcement duties. then when something happens. they can just tell their family(with NO remorse) ah,it was just an accident..no big deal.

 

[theweakerbrother]

I have to buy my own uniforms to work where I do now (suit, tie, shoes...) why should you be any different?

 

[phylodog]

Do you have to roll around on the ground, fight with people and jump fences in them? Are your pants $75 a pair?

I'm not complaining about having to buy our uniforms. I'm arguing against being forced to wear overpriced, fragile and uncomfortable uniforms because it makes someone feel better. If that is the case the uniforms should be provided.

 

[Gabriel]

Do you have to roll around on the ground, fight with people and jump fences in them? Are your pants $75 a pair?

Our BDU pants are $75 a pair. It does beat buying the dress pants every other month, though.

 

[phylodog]

Our BDU pants are $75 a pair. It does beat buying the dress pants every other month, though.

Right. The BDU uniforms aren't cheaper but they last ten times longer. When I was on MCSD I went through ten pair of uniform pants in one year. They were provided so it wasn't a big deal. If they had not been that would have been $750 out of my pocket.

 

[Bigum1969]

My suit pants are easily more than $75... but, I try not to roll around in them, especially not while climbing fences.

 

[hornadylnl]

Quote:
Osborn said the timing of the settlement — hours after a paramedic testified Monday that Eshom told him Harris had run headfirst into the wall — was no coincidence. But Cobb said mediation talks have been ongoing and the paramedic's testimony — and Paul's expected testimony — had no bearing on the settlement.

So the officer did move the guy after he hit his head for a reason. Kind of hard to argue he ran head first into a wall when he's laying flat on his back with his head still on the wall.

 

[rambone]

So the officer did move the guy after he hit his head for a reason. Kind of hard to argue he ran head first into a wall when he's laying flat on his back with his head still on the wall.

Yeah, that was pretty disturbing. Covering up a crime if you ask me. Double standards.

 

[hornadylnl]

Yeah, that was pretty disturbing. Covering up a crime if you ask me. Double standards.

If he told the paramedic he fell on his own and hit his head then he knew the shove was wrong. That also leads me to believe that he knew almost immediately the shove was wrong because he moved the position of the guy's body almost immediately after he hit his head. If it was a terrible accident then there should be no need to cover it up.

 

[machete]

This case makes me sick. The lawsuit originated at $25M. Criminal charges would show some real justice in this case.

i agree,,,no justice until a long jail sentence...

 

[machete]

I have to buy my own uniforms to work where I do now (suit, tie, shoes...) why should you be any different?