Senate Bill S 510 Food Safety Modernization Act vote imminent

[88GT]

Monsanto patented the gene in Roundup Ready Soybeans, so when I buy them and plant them, I can't keep any of the produced grain to plant for the next year. This has been taken to the U.S. Supreme Court and the Court sided with Monsanto.

Thanks. So a bit in between. Not legislated by Congress but created as case law in a manner of speaking as an off-shoot of patents and intellectual property rights.

 

[miguel]

I emailed our two genius Senators about this. Looking forward to their comic replies...

The WTO can suck my ass, I'll start eating leaves and tree bark.

 

[shibumiseeker]

I emailed our two genius Senators about this. Looking forward to their comic replies...

The WTO can suck my ass, I'll start eating leaves and tree bark.

Sorry, those are protected species...

 

[jedi]

So when is the vote? Does the HOUSE still have to pass a similar vote? Will it pass in the house?

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[IndySSD]

This is the problem with lame-duck sessions and term limits. What incentive do we have to hold over Bayh's head? I realize Lugar still has an election ahead and the last I heard, he was planning on running, but as much as he votes with the Dems, and with so many of them on the way out, why should they do what we ask? Why should they care?

OK, rephrase... They SHOULD care because of honor, integrity, and scruples... but we are talking about politicians, after all, most of whom have none of those things. The better question is, "Why would they care? They're beyond our reach. They know we have nothing else we can do to them.

Term limits should exist only at the ballot box and once out, I say they should be out, done, finished. Lame duck sessions are just a chance to get in a few more digs with impunity. I'll write to Lugar even though I know he'll do the exact opposite of what I ask. I haven't bothered to write to Bayh since I caught him in a baldfaced layh in a letter he wrote and called him on it... His response, "I'm sorry you didn't like my answer...."

It's not that I didn't like it, it's that it wasn't *fornicating* true!

O for the days when politicians who failed to uphold their oaths with honor had a date with a tall tree and a short rope or just a cigarette and a blindfold.

Blessings,
Bill

OMG OUT OF REP!!

But... But..... I need to rep BOR !!!! Someone hit him (with a +rep plz) for me!

 

[88GT]

So when is the vote? Does the HOUSE still have to pass a similar vote? Will it pass in the house?

S. 510: FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (GovTrack.us)

Info on the Senate bill.

I read an article that said there would have to be a fair amount of reconciliation between the Senate version and the House version, but it didn't clarify if a House version even existed at this point. I'm still trying to find it. I'll post it if I can.

This might be the House version. H.R. 2749: Food Safety Enhancement Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us) It passed the House over a year ago (questionably, I might add). Of course, when I searched the House bills by keyword: food, nearly 900 results showed up. Not encouraging at all.

 

[hornadylnl]

900 results show up for a subject that congress has no business medling in and people still believe congress can be fixed at the ballot box?

S. 510: FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (GovTrack.us)

Info on the Senate bill.

I read an article that said there would have to be a fair amount of reconciliation between the Senate version and the House version, but it didn't clarify if a House version even existed at this point. I'm still trying to find it. I'll post it if I can.

This might be the House version. H.R. 2749: Food Safety Enhancement Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us) It passed the House over a year ago (questionably, I might add). Of course, when I searched the House bills by keyword: food, nearly 900 results showed up. Not encouraging at all.

 

[4sarge]

Top ten lies about Senate Bill 510​

(NaturalNews) The Food Safety Modernization Act looks like it's headed to become law. It's being hailed as a "breakthrough" achievement in food safety, and it would hand vast new powers and funding to the FDA so that it can clean up the food supply and protect all Americans from food-borne pathogens.​

There's just one problem with all this: It's all a big lie.​

Here are the ten biggest lies that have been promoted about S.510 by the U.S. Congress, the food industry giants and the mainstream media:​

Lie #1 - Most deaths from food poisoning are caused by fresh produce​

Here's a whopper the mainstream media won't dare report: Out of the 1,809 people who die in America every year from food-borne pathogens (CDC estimate), only a fraction die from the manufacturer's contamination of fresh produce. By far the majority of food poisoning is caused by the consumption of spoiled processed foods, dead foods and animal-human transmission of pathogens.​

For example, one of the largest food-borne killers according to the CDC is Toxoplasma gondii, a disease that people acquire from cat feces coming into contact with their food, which can happen right in their own homes (http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/Vol5n...). Salmonella poisoning accounts for 553 deaths a year. As a reference for relative risk, over 42,000 people die each year from road accidents in the USA, meaning driving a car has a roughly 7600% higher chance of killing you than eating fresh produce. (http://www.driveandstayalive.com/in...)​

In terms of food-borne illness, many of the deaths come from things like spoiled tomato sauce, spoiled canned foods and spoiled pasteurized milk. S 510, of course, does absolutely nothing to address these food contamination deaths, since those foods are considered "sterilized" at the time of sale.​

Lie #2 - Under S.510, the FDA would only recall products it knows to be contaminated​

Not true. S.510 merely requires the FDA to have "reason to believe" a food is contaminated. So right there, that means all raw milk will be targeted by the FDA because even without conducting any scientific tests at all, the FDA can say it has "reason to believe" the milk is contaminated merely because it is raw.​

In other words, the FDA no longer needs science to outlaw a food product. It merely needs an opinion.​

Is this "reason to believe" section really true? Yep, and here's how it was amended:​

SEC. 208. ADMINISTRATIVE DETENTION OF FOOD.
23 (a) IN GENERAL. - Section 304(h)(1)(A) (21 U.S.C.24 334(h)(1)(A)) is amended by
(1) striking ''credible evidence or information indicating'' and inserting ''reason to believe'';
(http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi...)​

In other words, in negotiating this bill, the U.S. Senate removed the requirement that the FDA needed "credible evidence" in order to recall a product and, instead, replaced that with the FDA only needing "reason to believe."​

It is utterly amazing that the U.S. Congress would give the FDA to conduct large-scale product recalls and even imprison people based entirely on what the agency "has reason to believe."​

Last time I checked, the FDA held some pretty bizarre (if not downright moronic) beliefs, including this jaw-dropping whopper: The FDA literally believes that there is no food, no herb, no vitamin or supplement that has any ability to prevent disease of any kind. They don't even believe limes can prevent scurvy, and you'd have to nutritionally illiterate to believe that.​

The FDA believes foods are inert and that all the amazing phytonutrients in those foods (carotenoids, antioxidants, therapeutic fats like omega-3 and so on) are utterly useless for human biology.​

This belief, held by the FDA that has now been put in charge of the food supply, is the belief system of an insane government agency that has completely lost touch with reality while abandoning nutritional science.​

Lie #3 - They didn't tell you that nearly 70% of grocery store chickens are contaminated with salmonella every day​

Yep, it's true: Amid all the fear-mongering over salmonella, everybody forgot to notice that the vast majority of fresh chickens sold at grocery stores every single day are widely contaminated with salmonella (http://www.naturalnews.com/028661_c...). Yet S 510 does absolutely nothing to address this. It's not even mentioned in the bill.​

In fact, it is these contaminated chickens that end up cross-contaminating the fresh produce in many kitchens across America. So the so-called "food poisoning" that's often blamed on spinach or onions often originates with the contaminated chicken meat people bring home and slice on their kitchen cutting boards.​

Lie #4 - S.510 will exclude and protect small farmers​

The Tester Amendment, which was finally included in S.510, excludes farmers who sell less than $500,000 worth of food each year from the more onerous paperwork and compliance burdens described in the bill. But this dollar amount is not indexed to inflation, meaning that as the U.S. dollar continues to lose value due to the Federal Reserve counterfeiting machine running at full speed (more "quantitative easing," anyone?), food prices will continue to skyrocket -- and this will shift even small family farms into the $500,000 sales range within just a few years.​

In fact, a single-family farm with just four people could easily sell $500,000 worth of fresh produce a year right now, even before inflation. Remember, $500,000 is not their profit, but rather the gross sales amount. The profits on that might be only $50,000 or even less.​

Furthermore, this $500,000 threshold means that small, successful farms that are doing well and would like to expand will refuse to hire more people or expand their operations. To avoid the tyranny of S 510, small farms will try to stay small, and that means avoiding the kind of business expansion that would create new jobs.​

Lie #5 - The FDA needs more power to enforce food safety​

The FDA already has the power to effectively recall foods by publicly announcing a product has been found to be contaminated. The FDA already has the power to confiscate "misbranded" products, too, and it could easily use this power to halt the sale of contaminated food items.​

But the FDA simply refuses to enforce the laws already on the books and, instead, has sought to expand its power by hyping up the e.coli food scares. The ploy apparently worked: Now in a reaction to the food scare-mongering, the FDA is being handed not just new powers, but more funding, too! And you can bet it will find creative new ways to put this power to work suppressing the health freedoms and food freedoms of the American people.​

Lie #6 - Fresh produce is contaminated because of a lack of paperwork​

There is no evidence that requiring farms to fill out more paperwork will make their food safer. The real cause of produce contamination is the existence of factory animal farms whose effluent output (huge rivers of cow feces, basically), end up in the water supply, soils and equipment that comes into contact with fresh produce.​

The food contamination problem is an UPSTREAM problem where you've got to reform the factory animal operations that now dominate the American meat industry. S.510, however, does absolutely nothing to address this. Factory animal farms aren't even addressed in the bill!​

Lie #7 - The American people are dying in droves from unsafe fresh food​

The truth is that Americans are dying from processed food laced with toxic chemical additives, not from fresh, raw produce. Partially-hydrogenated oils, white sugar, aspartame, MSG and artificial food colors almost certainly kill far more people than bacterial contaminations.​

The American public is also dying from pharmaceuticals -- anywhere from 100,000 to 240,000 people a year are killed by FDA-approved drugs (http://www.naturalnews.com/001894.html), most of which have been approved under the guise of blatantly fraudulent science and drug company trickery. The FDA doesn't seem to mind. In fact, it has been a willful co-conspirator in the scientific fraud carried out by Big Pharma in the name of "medicine." (http://www.naturalnews.com/027851_h...)​

To think that the FDA -- the very same agency responsible for the Big Pharma death machine -- is now going to "save us" by controlling food safety is highly irrational.​

Lie #8 - The FDA just wants to make food "safer"​

Actually, the FDA wants to make the food more DEAD. Both the FDA and the USDA are vocal opponents of live food. They think that the only safe food is sterilized food, which is why they've supported the fumigation, pasteurization and irradiation efforts that have been pushed over the last few years.​

California almond growers, for example, must now either chemically fumigate or pasteurize their almonds before selling them (http://www.naturalnews.com/021776.html). This has destroyed the incomes of U.S. almond farmers and forced U.S. food companies to buy raw almonds from Spain and other countries.​

Lie #9 - Food smuggling is a huge problem in America​

One of the main sections of S.510 addresses "food smuggling." Yep -- people smuggling food across the country. If you've never heard of this problem that's because it's not actually a problem.​

Not yet anyway.​

But there's a reason why they put this into the bill: Because they're probably planning on criminalizing fresh produce and then arresting people for transporting broccoli with the "intent to distribute."​

Yep, farmers bringing fresh produce to sell at the weekend farmer's market could soon be arrested and imprisoned as if they were drug smugglers. Hence the need for the "food smuggling" provisions of S.510.​

Soon, we will all have to meet in secret locations just to trade carrots for cash.​

Lie #10 - S.510 will make America's food supply the safest in the world​

Actually, even with S.510 in place, America's food supply is among the most chemically contaminated in the world, second only to China. You can find mercury in the seafood, BPA in the canned soup, yeast extract (MSG) in the "natural" potato chips, and artificial petrochemical coloring agents in children's foods.​

Eating the "Standard American Diet" is probably the single most harmful thing a person can do for their health. It's the fastest way to get cancer, diabetes and heart disease. Every nation in the world that begins to consume the American diet starts to show record rates of degenerative disease within one generation. This is the "safe food" that the U.S. Senate is now pushing on everyone.​

Remember, with S.510, SAFE = DEAD. And the FDA says it wants to keep everybody safe.​

Permission granted to reproduce and post this list with credit​

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030587_Se...#ixzz16xOJvyTZ​

 

[ATOMonkey]

They may end up running out of time on this. Since there is a provision in the Senate originated version of the bill to collect revenue, it is unconstitutional, as all bills generating revenue need to originate in the House.

So, this bill has to be generated by the House (not a big deal, just add a H.R. number to the current text) and passed by the House, then it has to be voted on by the Senate. If the Senate amends any portion of the House version, it must go back to the House for reconciliation.

I'm standing by to see what happens next.

 

[88GT]

Lie #9 - Food smuggling is a huge problem in America​

Not yet anyway.​

Yep. They think it's bad now (not that I agree, just iterating their line for the sake of argument), they should wait until the regulations get good and going.

 

[rambone]

Being chased down for food smuggling is a scary thought. I suppose they'll set up police checkpoints to keep our streets safe from unregulated food. Dogs will search our cars and help sniff out the illegal greenbeans that we dump in the bushes. Cops will have their rifles "at the ready" as we wait for our trunks to be tossed.

People will laugh and criticize you for declaring that you have "a right" to grow and transport food. Many will revel in the power they are given in the coming tyrannical nightmare.

 

[mrjarrell]

Being chased down for food smuggling is a scary thought. I suppose they'll set up police checkpoints to keep our streets safe from unregulated food. Dogs will search our cars and help sniff out the illegal greenbeans that we dump in the bushes. Cops will have their rifles "at the ready" as we wait for our trunks to be tossed.

People will laugh and criticize you for declaring that you have "a right" to grow and transport food. Many will revel in the power they are given in the coming tyrannical nightmare.

Just further proof that what California does always reaches the rest of the country, at some point.

 

[hornadylnl]

Just further proof that what California does always reaches the rest of the country, at some point.

Hey, we shouldn't worry about what local, city, county, and state governments are doing elsewhere. We should only worry about what happens in Indiana.

 

[Expat]

Just further proof that what California does always reaches the rest of the country, at some point.

That is why it is time to give it back to Mexico.

 

[machete]

Seed saving is already illegal. We would probably lose the farm if we saved certain seeds and were caught.

they already have a good bases in caselaw for making some plants illegal...making other plants illegal just gets built,,,on that foundation!!!

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

The House is going to blue slip this bill. It'll have to start over, and there's not likely time in this session to get it done.

 

[ATOMonkey]

The House is going to blue slip this bill. It'll have to start over, and there's not likely time in this session to get it done.

Yep, especially since they have to get the tax thing nailed down first.

 

[machete]

I wonder what fine upstanding citizens are going to enforce this on us?

+++++++++++++++

aint that the truth...there will be a line of people waiting to enforce this immoral law,,,that will just WANT TO GO HOME AT THE END OF THE DAY!!!

and theyll have the guns and the courts to make it happen

 

[goinggreyfast]

They voted this in a few days ago but then recalled yesterday.
Bill S510: UPDATE! RECALLED for being Unconstitutional

 

[machete]

They voted this in a few days ago but then recalled yesterday.
Bill S510: UPDATE! RECALLED for being Unconstitutional

theyre going to keep trying it--its what corporations do... they want to lock up all the business and make sure that you cant do for yourself what they do as their business...

since corporations have more power and donations than you,,,well you can guess where this will eventually end up...

your whole family will eventually be eating nothing but corporate GMO food...and a lot of people will take pride in that because they were raised to OBEY THE LAW!!!

since jobs are getting scarcer and scarcer,,,there will be no shortage of people lining up to enforce these laws,,,just like TSA, DEA and all the other alphabits cereal agencies...