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FELONY! You just pointed a loaded gun at all of INGO, where’s KF when you need him!Let me check....
Nope. Not pointed at anything. Still just a holstered pistol.
FELONY! You just pointed a loaded gun at all of INGO, where’s KF when you need him!
I shot him with a pop tart.
I don't like any kind of plastic holsters (just personal preference), but what's wrong with a good leather holster with a thumb break if you want retention?
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Grandmaster
Nothing wrong with that.
I am looking at a very nice one a friend dropped off to me a short bit ago. It is as you describe. I like it. I might trade that non-usable (to me) ALS and a case of beer for it.....
Depends on what you mean by retention. If it's to keep the gun from falling out, nothing wrong with that. If it's to increase the difficulty of someone taking your gun from the holster, it's not going to do much.
Are we talking about a duty holster ?
If so IMO the ALS style is nice most bad people wont get it out.
I do have a tip to share if someone goes for your primary weapon do not fight them for it use your secondary or BUG or stab them. The bad guy will focus on the weapon they are attempting to get this will probably give you a opportunity to employ the above mentioned back up weapons.
Note : You still may die in a violent encounter sometimes luck plays a big part in the outcome IME.
If so IMO the ALS style is nice most bad people wont get it out.
I do have a tip to share if someone goes for your primary weapon do not fight them for it use your secondary or BUG or stab them. The bad guy will focus on the weapon they are attempting to get this will probably give you a opportunity to employ the above mentioned back up weapons.
Note : You still may die in a violent encounter sometimes luck plays a big part in the outcome IME.
Every tactic I have been shown relies on maintaining possession of your EDC. If it is a retention rig (regardless of brand) you have enough time to react.
That’s the same thing I was taught for years CM.
Sometime in the 2000’s training I received changed, it kinda goes like this if the bad guy goes for your carbine draw your pistol and shoot him!
The theory is that the bad guy will focus on the weapon that they are trying to fight over this will give you a window to use a secondary or back up or stab them. The issue with fighting over a weapon is it’s not safe for anyone and as you know most fights go to ground and chaos theory takes over.
Try it with “blue” guns it works!
Sometime in the 2000’s training I received changed, it kinda goes like this if the bad guy goes for your carbine draw your pistol and shoot him!
The theory is that the bad guy will focus on the weapon that they are trying to fight over this will give you a window to use a secondary or back up or stab them. The issue with fighting over a weapon is it’s not safe for anyone and as you know most fights go to ground and chaos theory takes over.
Try it with “blue” guns it works!
I am sure it does.
My motor response is to cover the bad guys hand as he struggles to pull the retained sidearm. This will further hinder his ability to pull it. As this is happening turn into the bad guy and un-ass him from his feet using your hip. or turn out and engage him directly. It depends on your stance at the start and your skills to move. I was always stronger turning in and un-assing. Takes some hands on. But I am not relinquishing my side arm. My Uncles would both spin in the grave. Goes against all they taught me.
If I recall we used be taught to grab the wrist and push down and do the sweep thing or hip toss or head butt.
If it’s a loose weapon all bets are off biting a nose off or ear, gouging eyes, pulling hair, seems to work or so I have been told.
People seem to lose motivation without a nose?
If it’s a loose weapon all bets are off biting a nose off or ear, gouging eyes, pulling hair, seems to work or so I have been told.
People seem to lose motivation without a nose?
I left out the fun parts. I fight dirty. If you can step back and find his foot, stand on it and you own him. Just have a decent ground game. I will bite off your ear if it is available.
But I digress.
I heard CM once kicked the Marques de Queensberry in the nads.
I'm primarily concerned with keeping it from falling out. That said, I only have a couple of holsters with active retention. One's for my snubbie, and one's for my Canik (CZ clone). Most often I use an open top, but with good passive retention. I usually carry semi-concealed (shirt or sweatshirt over the gun but not really "hidden").
Little known fact, Vincent Van Gogh did NOT cut off his own ear, he and CM were drinkin’ and carousing, then they had a disagreement...
Always have a stabby, pokey thing. The SOC-P dagger is great for just such an occasion. They grab your weapon or you, you go poke, poke, poke, draw your sidearm(still retaining stabby pokey) and get to work.
Hey now......Vince V. was a pretty tough guy.
