Seven Felony Convictions and Deported Five Times.

[KellyinAvon]

Also, will there be meetings? If yes, will there be snacks?

 

[femurphy77]

Hear that? You're apparently a white nationalist if you're pissed that an illegal alien killed an innocent woman.

So apparently being a "white nationalist" isn't as new as I thought it was. Posted dated 12-05-17.

 

[femurphy77]

So if I'm understanding the conviction being overturned; it's o.k. to shoot and kill somebody if you only had the gun in your possession during the actual moment the trigger was pulled, right?

****in' California!

 

[Alpo]

He was convicted on a felonious possession charge based on the judge's instructions. The instructions were in error.

I don't know about you, but I'm not overly fond of prosecutors who take the low road.

 

[BugI02]

So, if a convicetd felon buys a gun illegally from a gunrunner is there some inverse statute of limitations? Some minimum time of posession necessary to be guilty of possession? Can't the police stop someone immediately after participating in a drug deal and charge them with possession? Why should having control of a firearm be somehow different? If someone steals your car and is stopped a block away, are they in possession of your car or not?

impeachment of judges needs to become a 'thing'

 

[DoggyDaddy]

So, if a convicetd felon buys a gun illegally from a gunrunner is there some inverse statute of limitations? Some minimum time of posession necessary to be guilty of possession? Can't the police stop someone immediately after participating in a drug deal and charge them with possession? Why should having control of a firearm be somehow different? If someone steals your car and is stopped a block away, are they in possession of your car or not?

impeachment of judges needs to become a 'thing'

Apparently if you pick up a gun, shoot someone, then immediately put it down, you've done nothing illegal. I guess it's like the "5 second rule" if you drop a piece of food on the floor and decide to pick it up and eat it within 5 seconds... it's all good.

 

[Alpo]

So, if a convicetd felon buys a gun illegally from a gunrunner is there some inverse statute of limitations? Some minimum time of posession necessary to be guilty of possession? Can't the police stop someone immediately after participating in a drug deal and charge them with possession? Why should having control of a firearm be somehow different? If someone steals your car and is stopped a block away, are they in possession of your car or not?

impeachment of judges needs to become a 'thing'

Of course, your questions have nothing to do with the facts in the case.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Of course, your questions have nothing to do with the facts in the case.

The only relevant fact is, after he was deported the first time, let alone FIVE times, he should never have been allowed back in this country, and she would still be alive. But thanks to sanctuary city policies, Democrat politicians would rather coddle illegals for votes rather than protect American citizens. Prove me wrong.

Cities or states providing sanctuary for illegals should be stripped of all federal funding, for everything from roads, to healthcare... everything. Not a penny for anything. Furthermore, businesses employing illegals should be shut down. Every. Single. Division operating within the U.S.. That might start to get some attention.

 

[Alpo]

If you want to pick the fruit from that tree, the law enforcement officer whose gun was used in this incident should also have been charged.

I'm not in support of illegal entry or sanctuary cities, but given the circumstances here, I can see aggressive/unethical prosecutors pushing the envelope on the law for their own purposes. And it could happen in Indiana and well as in the land of snowflakes.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

If you want to pick the fruit from that tree, the law enforcement officer whose gun was used in this incident should also have been charged.

I'm not in support of illegal entry or sanctuary cities, but given the circumstances here, I can see aggressive/unethical prosecutors pushing the envelope on the law for their own purposes. And it could happen in Indiana and well as in the land of snowflakes.

He should have been charged for having his gun stolen? Perhaps, if he left his vehicle unlocked (I'm not familiar with the circumstances in which it was stolen), then I would agree that he should be held accountable in some way, but he did not pull the trigger. A person that should never have been in the country to begin with did.

The politicians that enacted the policies to allow him to stay should definitely be charged as accessories to murder.

 

[Dead Duck]

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

 

[Alpo]

He should have been charged for having his gun stolen? Perhaps, if he left his vehicle unlocked (I'm not familiar with the circumstances in which it was stolen), then I would agree that he should be held accountable in some way, but he did not pull the trigger. A person that should never have been in the country to begin with did.

The politicians that enacted the policies to allow him to stay should definitely be charged as accessories to murder.

A ricochet shot being charged as murder....

.....I guess we don't see eye to eye on this one.

Whether he was here illegally, or whether it was your unsupervised teenage son in the same circumstance shouldn't matter.

The court overturned the verdict based on bad instructions on a case that shouldn't have been tried on that law in those circumstances. There are other charges that could have been brought with more serious penalties. They weren't. Hard to quarterback this one now.

 

[actaeon277]

Vigilantism is often rationalized by the belief that proper legal forms of criminal punishment are either non-existent, insufficient, or inefficient.

 

[BugI02]

Of course, your questions have nothing to do with the facts in the case.

Odd, I thought the facts were that this particular POS was in possession of a firearm (stolen from LEO) at the moment that a shot was fired that fatally struck an innocent bystander via ricochet. I thought the facts were that a POS judge dismissed his conviction because the previous judge's instructions to the jury didn't allow for some ridiculous 'I just found it lying there and it went off' argument involving how much time of possession counts as actual legal 'control' of the weapon

The questions strike to the heart of the issue the case turned on - what would be the common sense definition of possession. It is not as if LEO dropped the weapon on the pier and it bounced into his hand and went off. He is responsible for every decision made once the weapon was in his hands, just like you and I are. I fail to see how having had 'possession' enough to be susceptible to lesser charges can somehow morph into not having enough possession for the most serious charge. I could see arguing for a lesser degree to the murder charge due to intent, but in no respect can I see the indicated rationale for dismissal

Judge is twisting justice to suit politics. Unfortunately not unusual but still worthy of opprobrium

 

[Hookeye]

Illegally here, repeatedly.........obviously doesn't care about law. May not have given a crap where the bullet went.
Don't think if what was reported true, that he committed murder.
He did kill somebody and proly doesn't give a rats azz about it.
That's a POS.
Put a .22rf in his ear canal.
Don't sweat it, there will be others needing same.

If they do turn him loose, being a Sanctuary City...........think the guy should be doing daycare for the politicians kids.
Live in their house.