single stack 9mm - pm9 or pps

[jason]

Does anyone have any experience with either or both of these pistols? I'm in the market for a small, single stack 9mm. If you happen to have one and are interested, I'd like to try it out before I buy one.

 

[G582]

I had a pm 40 and still have a pps. The pm40 conceals a little better but I like shooting the pps a lot better. The pps is also a lot more accurate for me. You also should think about whether you like Dao or striker fired better

 

[Glock10MM]

Check out the Kahr MK9 and, CM9 as well.

 

[shooter521]

Shot both; would take the Kahr in a heartbeat.

A few years ago, I posted my impressions shooting the PPS side-by-side with my Kahr P9:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/6779-new_pps.html#post85065

 

[cwagner1]

Consider the m&p shield as well. It's similar to the pps.

Out of those two, I'd take the pps. It's a nice shooting gun.

 

[shibumiseeker]

I have the PPS in .40 and the PM45. I LOVE the PPS and am like "meh" on the PM45.

 

[wagyu52]

Had a PM9, 1st off not a fan of the trigger, Smooth but long and my finger kept working its way down and getting between the guard and trigger. 2nd, for a fairly expensive gun the fit of the mag in the mag well is outright crude, it is like it was an afterthought. 3rd, the battery of arms is a little different as you have to always release the slide lock, not rack the slide into battery. 4th, for me being left handed the slide lock is huge and boxy, it really creates problems with IWB holsters.
I now have a Shield and feel it is superior in all but one thing, the PM9 is smaller in size, I could actually pocket carry the PM9, the Shield is a little big for that.
My brother has a PPS and it is a nice pistol, I would have no problem carrying it, I like the shield better but probably because I have more trigger time with it. Incidentally, I carry my shield in a don Hume JIT holster for a Walther PPS, fits perfectly.

 

[SmokinSigs357]

Due to my awesome forum handle, I must profess the goodness of used Sig P6's, Sig P225's and P239's.

Once you make tiny ragged holes in your target with a Sig, you won't want anything else.

 

[jtmason15]

I have personally shot the PPS. I was not impressed at all with the accuracy of the gun. It concealed nice but it could not hit the broad side of a barn. I would suggest a Sig P938. Great gun, easy to conceal and shoots like a champ. Plus if you shop around you can get one for close to the same price as a PPS. Reliability wise I do not know how reliable each gun is but they both have good makers so I would think they would both be good guns.

 

[GTM]

I've owned both the PM9 and the PPS. I also have a Kahr CM9. I prefer the PPS. It has a Glock-like trigger versus Kahr's long, but smooth trigger. The long trigger on the PM9 caused me to pinch my finger between trigger and trigger guard. The Kahr is smaller and easier to conceal, however, the PPS is easier to shoot and not much harder to conceal. The magazine release on the PPS is different than most other guns, though, and it takes some getting used to.

If you decide to get the Kahr, go with the CM9, it's less expensive. In my opinion the PM9 is not worth the premium.

 

[jason]

3rd, the battery of arms is a little different as you have to always release the slide lock, not rack the slide into battery.

I don't like the sounds of that.

The Shield and the P9 don't look much smaller than a glock 19.

Due to my awesome forum handle, I must profess the goodness of used Sig P6's, Sig P225's and P239's.

Those are all fullsize guns, but I hadn't though about Sig having those little 9mm's.

Reliability wise I do not know how reliable each gun is but they both have good makers so I would think they would both be good guns.

That's a big thing for me. My friend broke a Keltec PF9 on the second or third outing with it. That, coupled with the atrocious trigger on the p380 completely discourages me from buying that brand.

 

[jason]

Oh, and can anyone tell me the difference between the Kahr CM9 and PM9? Besides the price?

 

[Hoosier Carry]

Jason you might look at kahrtalk .com for some further info. They have some good discussion on all series of kahrs.

 

[jesse485]

I had a pm 40 and still have a pps. The pm40 conceals a little better but I like shooting the pps a lot better. The pps is also a lot more accurate for me. You also should think about whether you like Dao or striker fired better

I havethe exact same experience, although I don't know what your PPS is chambered in. Mine is a 9mm, so it obviously handles better than the little Kahr in .40. I find the quality of the PPS to be far superior as well. The only thing I'm not wild about is the "quicksafe" backstraps.

 

[G582]

My pps is also 9mm and while the 40 is a lot snappier it really is the grip differences that mattered most to me. I'm over the whole micro gun thing. I also agree about the backstrap disconnect. Just one more thing you really don't need to fail.

 

[shooter521]

Oh, and can anyone tell me the difference between the Kahr CM9 and PM9? Besides the price?

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/251856-kahr_cw380.html#post3598371

 

[BluePig]

My brother has a PPS and it is a nice pistol, I would have no problem carrying it, I like the shield better but probably because I have more trigger time with it. Incidentally, I carry my shield in a don Hume JIT holster for a Walther PPS, fits perfectly.

And I shot my brother's Shield and it too shot good.
But I have seen a few more PPS than I have Shields.
But finding mags for the PPS is difficult.
Of course, finding a Shield is also difficult.
At least I know where there is another holster in the family.
Should have let you try my Galco, but then again you are LH.

 

[jpwfranks]

I have seen the Kahr PM9 and the PPS side by side, and I personally liked the PM9 better because it just seemed to be built better. However, I really liked the mag release on the PPS.

 

[dondavis3]

S&W M&P Shield is a great gun

You should also look at the M&P 9c

Slightly large (not much) and carries 12+1