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  • cbseniour

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    I just looked up gun ownership in America and found that there are 70 guns in the US for every 100 people. Far and away shotguns are the most popular followed by hand guns and then rifles and what are mistakenly called assault weapons. Assault weapons are select fire or automatic and only about 8 percent of the guns in America are that variety and you must have a very expensive permit and submit to full FBI background checks to legally own those.

    So if there are 300 million people in the US today there are also 210 million guns.

    So let’s talk about gun control. How does anyone propose to get rid of over 200,000,000 guns? Most gun owners would go to extreme lengths to prevent the loss of their guns and their 2nd amendment rights. Are you going to put Colt, Remington, Henry, and Winchester, Smith and Wesson and a myriad of other manufacturers out of business? Are you going to close the hundreds or thousands of gun stores in the US? Is the Army or police force going to go door to door confiscating weapons? \

    No, after all we the people have more guns and more skill in their use than does the government and many police, soldiers etc. are active in the gun community as well.

    We have experienced way too much violence in this country lately and a lot of it has been at the hands of gunmen. Perhaps it is time we looked at the people who do these awful crimes and not the tools they use. Instead of asking how did he get that gun let’s try just one time asking how is it that in the most civilized country in the world we raise young men who want to kill their family and small children. How does a young man get so sick that he plans entry into a theater for the sole reason of killing people he doesn’t even know?

    Oh and one other point, these horrible incidents happen almost exclusively in gun free zones. Why not take some of our Iraq and Afghanistan veterans who are out there looking for work and employ them as armed security in our schools? Not only would the kids be safer but they would learn that not all men who carry guns are bad men. Even the school administration might eventually learn to see the person not the gun.
     

    spec4

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    I think it's time to acknowledge that gun control of some sort is coming. Question is, to what extent will it be?



    We'll certainly see attempts. The ultimate goal of the left, socialists, progessives, whatever you want to call them, is to completely disarm us. sadly, they will use yesterday as an excuse. We got the 1968 gun laws as a result of the assassinations of JFK, MLK, and RFK. Personally I am against any new anti gun laws. It just is one step closer to disarmament.
     

    netsecurity

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    We'll certainly see attempts. The ultimate goal of the left, socialists, progessives, whatever you want to call them, is to completely disarm us. sadly, they will use yesterday as an excuse. We got the 1968 gun laws as a result of the assassinations of JFK, MLK, and RFK. Personally I am against any new anti gun laws. It just is one step closer to disarmament.

    ^ Democrats don't want anyone to LEGALLY own a gun. Proof is Chicago, DC, etc. Don't believe for a second that liberals even support your right to hunt, because they don't. Remember, their voting base includes environmentalists, and PETA. They don't care if you get killed by an armed criminal, but you can bet these liberal politicians employ armed body guards at all times for themselves.
     
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    To blame gun control solely on the left is to be ignorant. While Republicans may not be as for gun control as the left is, as has been saqid before, every republican president in the last 30 years has signed at least 1 anti gun law. You can blame liberals all you want, dont think for a second that Romney WOULDNT have signed off on an anti gun law if he was president and it crossed his desk
     

    downzero

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    We'll certainly see attempts. The ultimate goal of the left, socialists, progessives, whatever you want to call them, is to completely disarm us.

    I think it would be a HUGE mistake to believe this. I have shot with gay gun owners, straight gun owners, left, right, facist, racist, conservative, libertarian, capitalist, socialist, communist, progressive, liberal, tall, short, fat, skinny, black, white, asian, mixed, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and every other imaginable type of gun owner you can think of. TIMES ARE CHANGING! We cannot and should not shun gun owners who think differently from us on other issues. It would definitely weaken us if we allow ourselves to be divided by this.

    People from all over the political spectrum recognize the importance of gun rights. Don't allow yourself to play into the propaganda that everyone who doesn't vote for a republicans is a gun grabber. It just ain't true.
     

    Trooper

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    To blame gun control solely on the left is to be ignorant. While Republicans may not be as for gun control as the left is, as has been saqid before, every republican president in the last 30 years has signed at least 1 anti gun law. You can blame liberals all you want, dont think for a second that Romney WOULDNT have signed off on an anti gun law if he was president and it crossed his desk

    Do you understand the pressure that the left can generate in DC? How many republicans have had a conservative congress? Or was it mostly controlled by dems???

    The left owns this country. They are your kids teachers. They control the universities and brainwash most college grads. They own Hollywood and the news media. They won the culture war. Now they just want to clean idiots like you up and throw you away.

    Do you think gun control would stop the Muslims? I have been in too many Islamic countries (majority population is Muslim) where everyone makes guns. Can you make an AK-47 or an RPG-7? Or cook your own explosives? I have seen that done in Afghanistan, in the Balkans and in north Africa. Seen them making things, been inside their workshops.

    Ever wonder why the left is so terrified of Muslims?
     

    Trooper

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    Gun control is mostly symbolic. The left does not trust anyone, especially themselves. Thus they would never create a police force that could come after them. And it would take about 15 million officers to effectively police this country. No way the left would allow a police state. They are more afraid of it than you are.

    If you want to mess with them, suggest that the American people can no longer be trusted with freedom and that we need a police state. Tell them that gun control makes it easier to control the sheeple and that you want the military to control everything, especially public education.

    Do it tongue in cheek, just have fun with them.
     

    cbseniour

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    The guns are here, they can not be taken away or distroyed without our consent. WE must refocus the discussion on controlling the criminals, eleminating gun free zones and teaching the proper respect for both guns and people in our society.
     

    clfergus

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    The guns are out there now, so as in this case the criminal or disturb will steal them if they want them bad enough. In this case, it was easier as it was his mother but in all other cases its possible.

    What President Obama should come on the TV and say is we are putting in a law mandating that all schools have some amount of teachers and admins who will be armed. If you attempt this again they will be trained to kill you. If you survive we will hang you.
     

    Xap

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    If we as a country could just get past the whole 'left' and 'right' thing, we would probably get something productive done. The world is not black and white, so why treat the country as red and blue?

    In terms of gun control, I personally do not support any more gun control. As has been said many times before, criminals will get guns if they want them, so taking away guns from law abiding citizens just creates more potential victims.
     
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    Do you understand the pressure that the left can generate in DC? How many republicans have had a conservative congress? Or was it mostly controlled by dems???

    LOL?

    The left owns this country. They are your kids teachers. They control the universities and brainwash most college grads. They own Hollywood and the news media. They won the culture war. Now they just want to clean idiots like you up and throw you away.

    Did you just call me an idiot for stating a FACT?

    Do you think gun control would stop the Muslims? I have been in too many Islamic countries (majority population is Muslim) where everyone makes guns. Can you make an AK-47 or an RPG-7? Or cook your own explosives? I have seen that done in Afghanistan, in the Balkans and in north Africa. Seen them making things, been inside their workshops.

    Not sure what your trying to get at here? But there are many other things im afraid of more so than Muslims


    Ever wonder why the left is so terrified of Muslims?

    The same reason you are?
     

    Hookeye

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    They don't need to take what will be freely given.
    My guess is that most will go bye bye with Governmental health care.........your wife or kid needs an operation, and Uncle Sam will get them in on time, and pick up the tab...........but only if you allow your loved one to recuperate in a "healthy/safe environment". And that means "no guns".
    My bet is that 90% of the people would dump their rigs in exchange for not getting the bill.
     

    BigMatt

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    What President Obama should come on the TV and say is we are putting in a law mandating that all schools have some amount of teachers and admins who will be armed. If you attempt this again they will be trained to kill you. If you survive we will hang you.

    I was thinking the same thing when watching his speech last night.
     

    Trooper

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    The guns are out there now, so as in this case the criminal or disturb will steal them if they want them bad enough. In this case, it was easier as it was his mother but in all other cases its possible.

    What President Obama should come on the TV and say is we are putting in a law mandating that all schools have some amount of teachers and admins who will be armed. If you attempt this again they will be trained to kill you. If you survive we will hang you.

    The teachers would resist being armed. Too macho, to "cowboy". Most teachers are leftwingers, often feminists, who despise male behavior. Thus they want to medicate boys who act like boys. Sort of the Victorian belief that all men are beasts.
     
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