Square Up - the Square payment system, is anti gun.

[Hammerhead]

Posted on my FB wall from Double G Guns about an hour ago:

As of today we can no longer take debit/credit cards till I get set up with a new company....our current card company has decided they will not support the sale of guns,ammo or anything related to firearms.........SQUARE UP is anti gun now...

He then went on to post the new TOS for Square:

By creating a Square Account, you also confirm that you will not accept payments in connection with the following businesses or business activities: (1) any illegal activity or goods, (2) buyers or membership clubs, including dues associated with such clubs, (3) credit counseling or credit repair agencies, (4) credit protection or identity theft protection services, (5) direct marketing or subscription offers or services, (6) infomercial sales, (7) internet/mail order/telephone order pharmacies or pharmacy referral services (where fulfillment of medication is performed with an internet or telephone consultation, absent a physical visit with a physician including re-importation of pharmaceuticals from foreign countries), (8) unauthorized multi-level marketing businesses, (9) inbound or outbound telemarketers, (10) prepaid phone cards or phone services, (11) rebate based businesses, (12) up-sell merchants, (13) bill payment services, (14) betting, including lottery tickets, casino gaming chips, off-track betting, and wagers at races, (15) manual or automated cash disbursements, (16) prepaid cards, checks, or other financial merchandise or services, (17) sales of money-orders or foreign currency, (18) wire transfer money orders, (19) high-risk products and services, including telemarketing sales, (20) service station merchants, (21) automated fuel dispensers, (22) adult entertainment oriented products or services (in any medium, including internet, telephone, or printed material), (23) sales of (i) firearms, firearm parts or hardware, and ammunition; or (ii) weapons and other devices designed to cause physical injury (24) internet/mail order/telephone order cigarette or tobacco sales, (25) drug paraphernalia, (26) occult materials, (27) hate or harmful products, (28) escort services, (29) bankruptcy attorneys or collection agencies engaged in the collection of debt.

He then posted the letter they sent him notifying him of the update:

Hello.

From time to time we update our agreement governing the use of Square's payment processing services, Square Reader, and Square Register. We're writing to inform you of a few changes recently incorporated into this agreement.

Click here to read the updated Seller Agreement.

The vast majority of changes result from either reorganization, clarification of language, the deletion of duplicative text, or other aesthetic changes, although there are a few substantive modifications. (See, for example, Section 6 [Your Square Account], Section 7 [Our Role], Section 12 [Applicable Network Rules], Section 15(a) [Access to Square Account Funds], Section 15(b) [Right to Setoff], Section 16 [Payout Schedule], Section 24 [Taxes], Section 36 [Disclosures and Notices], Section 47 [Representation and Warranties], and Section 49b [Third Party Products].)

The updated agreement will take effect on June 9, 2013. If you continue to use our services after June 9, 2013, you agree to the terms of the new agreement. You will be able to access the previous version of the agreement for the next thirty days.

Thanks,
The Square Team
squareup.com

Square is now anti-gun, and as such, apparently now anti-small business. I will be telling people I know who use Square to stop using them for any and all transactions. I had considered using Square myself. I will not be using their service now.

 

[marcp]

Oh thanks for letting us know of this anti gun company. My pizza shop has switched to square for payment's when they deliver, so time for a new pizza joint.


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[BiscuitNaBasket]

Too bad I hadn't seen this earlier today. I used a squaredup thingamabober to pay for lunch. That won't happen again and I'll be informing that restaurant of why I'm no longer ordering from them with a card.

 

[Tdcompton]

I have been waiting for two weeks for a refund through Square..... Not pleased.

 

[kwood]

now we need to find a new company to use for card swipes...dang...it was such a handy little tool

 

[nra4ever]

So what else is there other than square.

I need square to do business.

 

[dailylc]

I use Intuit GoPayment that links to my quickbooks programs. Been using it for a couple months now. Take a look!

 

[indyjoe]

PayPal has a portable card system, but I believe they have been anti-gun for a while.

 

[ZbornacSVT]

Square has been Anti-Gun since its inception. Nothing new here.

 

[SSGSAD]

I must be BEHIND, I have NO IDEA, what square, is .....

 

[HeadlessRoland]

WTF is with companies not wanting to make any money?

Never used them and now I definitely won't. Thanks for the update.

 

[Bugoutbob]

They are not actually anti gun, I saw a post on Reddit where it was explained. It had to do with something about seller protection and some federal law. I'll try to find it it the morning.

 

[dusterboy49]

I must be BEHIND, I have NO IDEA, what square, is .....

Square is a credit card reading device that you can attach to your smartphone,etc.
It is small and convenient and there is a fee for its use.

 

[Hotdoger]

They are not actually anti gun, I saw a post on Reddit where it was explained. It had to do with something about seller protection and some federal law. I'll try to find it it the morning.

Please post it. I am in the process of going to many Square units.

 

[Squirt239]

Learned my lesson first hand: https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ion/215770-firearms_and_credit_companies.html

 

[Gabriel]

I must be BEHIND, I have NO IDEA, what square, is .....

That makes two of us (until it was explained in a later post).

 

[dmarsh8]

rob pincus talked about a payment method for PS of guns, trying to find it

 

[Hotdoger]

Learned my lesson first hand: https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ion/215770-firearms_and_credit_companies.html

What are you using now?

 

[dmarsh8]

not necessarily the same but....FAQ « PistolPay.com

 

[Squirt239]

I use PayAnywhere. The only thing they asked of me was to email them a copy of my FFL to release them from liability. I obliged.