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  • mrjarrell

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    I think this one will be shown to be wrong as well.
    Not too sure. This was the 2nd experiment, to replicate the first one that showed the neutrinos traveling faster than light. Now they'll just have to see what other scientists get when they replicate the experiment. If it's replicable by other scientists then we're on the doorstep of something really cool.
     

    NYFelon

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    Not too sure. This was the 2nd experiment, to replicate the first one that showed the neutrinos traveling faster than light. Now they'll just have to see what other scientists get when they replicate the experiment. If it's replicable by other scientists then we're on the doorstep of something really cool.

    They got the same result this time (60 nS discrepancy from calculated arrival time) as they did last time. Their calculations last time were called into question and while not necessarily proven to be, were at least shown to be faulty. I would like to believe faster than light travel is possible, but I'm skeptical.
     

    Expat

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    I actually get some joy from this. The smug certainty that NOTHING could exceed light speed was irritating. We never know what we don't know.
     

    lovemachine

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    Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.
     

    Doug

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    Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

    And boldly to split infinitives that have never been split before.:D
     

    halfmileharry

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    YEP! Exciting times we're living in.
    I figure it won't be long before the geeks blow us all to heck anyway.
    They can't resist testing out things that they have no idea of the repercussions of some experiments but continue to do so.
    I seem to recall a tunnel under the English Channel that scientists created an experiment and other scientists got together and said it was possible to have completely demolished the European Continent leading to a Life Ending Event on earth. I can't remember all the detail because I just said "Heck with it" and I continue to wait until we end up like Krypton.
     

    jedi

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    NYFelon

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    Here are just a few papers pointing to possible errors in the experiment at CERN.

    http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1110/1110.6408v1.pdf

    http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1389521/files/CERN-OPEN-2011-042.pdf

    http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1109/1109.5368v5.pdf

    The last discusses the huge discrepancy between CERN's experiment and a known neutrino pulse generator that occured naturally, SN1987A, a supernova. According to that last one, if CERN's experiment model is accurate, there should have been a detectable neutrino pulse 4 years prior to the visual appearance of the supernova. This did not happen. This paper, and many others from physicists at different institutions reject CERN's results.

    Here's an article by Reuters involving a paper released by scientists from another experiment at the same facility in Italy, Gran Sasso, that refutes the claims of faster-than-light neutrinos. There is a link to their paper in the article.

    Study rejects faster than light particle finding | Reuters

    CERN faces a massively uphill battle in having their findings accepted. Many scientists, groups of scientists are of the opinion that the error lies in the experiment. It must be repeated and verified by independent facilities.
     

    Ogre

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    Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.
    meh...
    MIMITW.jpg

    .... Has gone where no man has gone before..twice.:cool:
    :laugh:
     
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