Stranger With A Camera...Kentucky Man With A gun..Who Shot First?

[indiucky]

When I was born, we lived just about on the Magoffin and Breathitt County lines. When I say something about back home, the wife knows I am not talking about the place we have lived for 25 years.

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[CountryBoy19]

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It's telling me, "This video is private, enter password"... anybody else getting that?

 

[SSGSAD]

My Dad's Dad, was born in Corbin Co., Ky., near the Cumberland falls .....

He moved to In., sometime .....

My Dad, was born in In., in 1926 .....

I have heard, that there is a street where all the mailboxes, have my last name on them .....

I don't know for sure .....

 

[Expat]

It's telling me, "This video is private, enter password"... anybody else getting that?

No. Not here.

 

[woowoo2]

I married a "Justice" from Pike county Ky.
Been up and down the mountain parkway more times than I can count.
It's a strange place.

 

[rhino]

Maybe the Isons are grumpy. Hobart Ison is part of this story and a guy named David Ison killed five people in Franklin County in 2011.

My best friend from college has the same last name (probably a distant relative).

 

[Expat]

I married a "Justice" from Pike county Ky.
Been up and down the mountain parkway more times than I can count.
It's a strange place.

You passed through my old home area. The MP used to end there in Salyersville.

 

[indiucky]

Appropriate for this thread I think.....

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[Thor]

Okay, just watched the documentary. I've got to say that the Canuks were a bunch of social justice warriors who just wanted to pile on what a bunch of yokels the locals were and make money off of it. After all, they don't live in a city and work for the BBC, they live in the hills and work in a coal mine...let's show how stupid they are and how much their life sucks, look they are dirty and maybe hungry (as opposed to not badly dressed and opposed to 50 years ago maybe not too badly off). If I was on they jury I'd have been the one guy saying good shoot. Why aren't the rest of them dead. The film crew is still saying what a bunch of backwards yokels and we did no wrong. They underestimate the ill they do with their lenses.

That being said...there were a lot of cars there that I would like to see restored instead of pushed into the creek. Hindsight being 20/20 and what not.

 

[indiucky]

Found this last night researching Kentucky feuds...It seems "the good old days" were pretty darn violent...Patricide, murders over 15 cents, murders of children, feuds, fights over women, drunken brawls, brainings, axings, beatings to death, etc...

Note to mods the word "colored" is used in this to refer to the race of some of the victims and killers as it was written in 1878....I thought it would be okay to post due to it's being an historical record and with no malice....

https://kentuckyexplorer.com/nonmembers/00-06043.html

[SIZE=+2]Editor's Note: On Dec. 31, 1878, the Louisville Commercial newspaper published a day-to-day account of all the recorded violent deaths which had occurred in Kentucky for the year 1878. It was indeed a violent time, not only in Eastern Kentucky, but in other areas of our state as well.[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] Author Unknown The Louisville Commercial - 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]January 1878 [/SIZE][SIZE=+2] On the 14th - John Robertson stabbed John Harlis, Lebanon. Wife killed John Snow, Allen County, axe. Dave Hall, Beaver Creek, gambling quarrel. Citizen shot Louis Hall, Beaver Creek; had murdered his cousin.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]16th - Henry Hufnagel, officer, shot John Welsh at Covington. Mob shot Tom Tavner (colored) in Fayette County.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]22nd - Lucy Stepp (colored) shot James F. Jordan at Richmond; he clubbed her for circulating false reports.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]25th - James Wolfe killed John Brooks with a rifle at Hopkinsville.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]February 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 1st - Hiram Hooper shot Obediah False at Vanceburg.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]5th - George Ballard (colored) shot John Giner (colored) at Paducah.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]11th - Antisbrother shot James Smiley at Grayson; an old grudge.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]15th - Weedon D. Gay shot James Anderson at Mt. Sterling; quarrel about real estate. James Anderson, Jr. shot Ben Myers at Mt. Sterling; jealousy.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]16th - Beve Oldham shot Wm. Cooley in Fulton County; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]20th - George Jenkins killed Pat Gilroy at Henderson. Stabbed to death because he failed to complete a ditching contract.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]21st - Joseph Frazer shot Colonel Joseph M. Harks at Lawrenceburg; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]March 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 5th - John Park (colored) stabbed George Franklin (colored) at Somerset; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]12th - Mike Ely shot at Hustonville; election row.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]15th - William Coleman (colored) shot Cask Davis (colored) at Frankfort; gambling quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]25th - Clay Clelland shot Jim Turner at Salvisa; quarrel about 15 cents.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]27th - William Barnes shot John Stephens in Menifee County, because Stephens accused him of intimacy with his sister and whipped him for it the night before.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]29th - William Hogan mashed the skull of his child near McKinney.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]31st - Charles Cook and William Brackett killed William Marlow and his wife near Louisville; cut off their heads and burned them, because they were witnesses against them.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]April 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 1st - Dick Bryant (colored) stabbed Aleck Johnson at Covington for calling him names.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]2nd - Henry T. Betts shot Sanford Powell at Rogers' Gap; drunken quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]3rd - Clay Clelland shot Jim Turner near Harrodsburg, because he dunned him for 15 cents that he owned him.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]7th - Henry Noel shot Isaiah Gabbard at Corinthville; old feud.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]8th - Posse shot Thomas Michael in Breathitt County, escaping arrest. Thomas Watson and wife killed their child at Brookville.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]9th - Harrison Keety stabbed James Stewart; drunken dance at Bear Creek.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]10th - Charles Trust kicked his sick grandchild to death at Whitesburg.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]11th - Wm. Allen killed George Alexander in Kentucky, opposite Leavenworth, Indiana, with a fence rail, because he broke the engagement of marriage with his daughter.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]15th - Luther Lee killed George Rogers with treadle at Lexington, because he talked about his wife.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]17th - Thomas Warner stabbed Daniel Warner near Bergen; quarrel about accounts.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]21st - John Shannon, policeman, shot Edward Smith (colored) at Lexington for fast driving. Thomas Eubank killed Bud Warren with a hoe in Buffalo; quarrel about the profits and sale of illicit still. Bud Warren killed Thomas Eubank with a hoe at Buffalo: quarrel about division of profits of an illicit distillery.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]26th - Mob shot Asa Roark in Allen County; revenge for act done during war.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]May 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 13th - Joe Lewis (colored) shot Joe Thompson at Sadieville.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]20th - Jim Young stabbed ____ Gibson at Hayden's Corner; quarrel at funeral. Colored man shot Dan Jackson (colored) at Negro festival, Herverytown. Hezekiah Hensley shot John J. Evans at Mt. Sterling; grudge.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]22nd - David Thornburg killed Samuel Gray in Floyd County; family feud.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]24th - James Dugan shot Mary Meagher in Louisville; she was his mistress, and he was drunk.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]25th - Enoch Wolsey, Jr. shot John Muse at Somerset for talking about him.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]26th - Henson shot Ebenezer Renfroe at Dallas; grudge.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]27th - John Corns stabbed Frank McAllister at Greenup. Freeman Farris (colored) shot Robert Land at Lancaster; drunken quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]29th - Mattie Thurman (colored) killed her child at Harrodsburg.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]30th - M. F. Clark killed, with a hoe, Dan Switzer near Stonewall; quarrel about a team.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]31st - Dannecke shot in a house of prostitution at Livingston.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]June 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 4th - Asa Gordon killed Samuel Preston, with a spoke, in Clay County, because he struck him with a switch.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]6th - Mrs. Andy Carlisle choked her child in Larue County. Jack Atherton threw his child on its back, breaking it; also killed his 13-year-old child with a hatchet in Larue County. T. B. McMurray shot William East at Hickman; drunken quarrel. William Howard shot Ed Collins in Mason County; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]12th - H. Helton shot Edward Cox in Menifee County.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]16th- Henry Hammer shot Simon Givens at Danville for calling him insulting names.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]18th - Please Overstreet (colored) stabbed Lewis Mays at Hampton.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]22nd - Wm. Hicks and Lee Arnold both shot in melee at Mt. Vernon, Kentucky. James Bowman stabbed James Davis near Richmond, because Davis accused him of stealing his wood.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]23rd - John Harris stabbed John Moore at Harrodsburg; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]24th - Abbott Watson cut George Willett near New Haven; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]26th - J. Garthey (colored) stabbed David Thomas (colored) at Filmore.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]July 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 1st - Wm. Martin shot Thomas Jones near Lexington; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]2nd - Joe Webster cut Ben Finney (colored) at Walton; Webster was on a drunken spree.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]4th - Everett Lilley, 18, stabbed Thomas Lilley, 20, his brother, at Owenton; quarrel about working in tobacco.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]11th - George Meece shot John R. Gardner at Stephenburg; previous quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]13th - Tom Douglas (colored) killed with an ax by his brother on Logan Creek; jealousy. Henry Priesthoff cut Joseph Flitter at Covington; quarrel. Walter Kavanaugh (colored) stabbed John Reed at Lancaster; drunken quarrel at a dance. William Smith shot Nathan Douglas in Nelson County; quarrel at a Negro dance.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]14th - Jacob Doutman shot Corbin Freebuck near Cynthiana; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]17th - Kiser brained _____ Overton with a hoe in Grayson County.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]24th - George Hall shot David Simpson at Mt. Sterling; feud.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]25th - Sam Lancaster (colored) stabbed James Button at La Grange; quarrel. Dan Morgan killed Tom Blankenship and brother near Maysville, trying to get into Morgan's establishment without paying.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]26th - Wm. Farmer killed, with a rock, a German at Sulphur Springs; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]27th - George Hume shot Hick Burns in Anderson County; quarrel about 95 cents.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]August 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 3rd - Wm. Gordon, Mace Gordon, and J. M. Thompson shot Dune Roach near Frankfort; quarrel about election of magistrates.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]6th - James Bowling stabbed Millard Kennedy at Grayson, because he beat him wrestling.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]10th - Unknown shot George Anderson near Leesburg.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]12th - John C. Hiser cut Frank Gatewood (colored) at Winchester; drunk and took the Negro for a Negro he had a grudge against.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]15th - H. N. Holdsworth shot Phillip Arnold at Elizabethtown.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]16th - Reuben H. Gale shot James Overty in Robertson County; feud about a woman. Joe O. Bailey shot Sam O. Field at Lexington; scuffle for a watermelon; pistol accidentally went off. Kid Barker shot Wm. Carl in Butler County; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]18th - Dennis Mohon shot Philip Hoog near Louisville; stealing grapes from Archbishop McCloskey.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]21st - Lot Walker shot Pat Nolan at Virginia Point; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]22nd - Duke Fleming killed Sarah Wright (colored prostitute) with loaded cane at Cynthiana; died 29th.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]26th - George, Albert, and Wm. Ratliff shot J. W. Riggs and J. W. Luttrill for rape of Mrs. George Ratliff on 22nd at Princeton. Tom Reegon and B. Tweedy killed Mrs. Lucinda Johnson (prostitute) at Elizabethtown.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]28th - Thomas Hughes stabbed Elijah Fraley, brother-in-law, near Sandy Hook; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]30th - Ann Logan (colored) killed her child by drowning at Cynthiana.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]September 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 6th - James Drake shot Patrick Ryan near Lexington; quarrel about right-of-way over Drake's land.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]7th - Bart Simmons shot James White in Clay County. A Negro killed John Bailey at Monticello in a quarrel over wages.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]9th - Roderick killed near Lorretto; mistaken for somebody else.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]17th - Three tramps killed Mrs. Kassender at Sterling Run; raped to death. Jerry Little cut ____ Cockrell at Jackson; feud.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]19th - Jim Coney killed, with a stone, Henry Jenkins near Sandy Hook.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]23rd - Robert Richardson killed Martin Harlow near Kingston, with a pitchfork; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]25th - John W. Cabbell stabbed Frank J. Harrison near Lebanon; quarrel about $1.25.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]29th - John Carney killed Tom Anderson with a boulder at Covington. Fannie Pitman (colored) killed her child at Frankfort.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]October 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 1st - Del Graves stabbed Myron Potts at Lexington. Jerry Burnett shot Wm. C. Burnett, his nephew, at Kingston; quarrel about wagon wheels. Martha Hedges (colored) cut, with a knife, ____ McKinney at Brush Creek; wanted to rape her. Thomas Staten shot John Daniel at White Sulphur Springs.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]3rd - Mrs. Kane shot her son at Stanford; accidental, fooling with a pistol.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]4th - Unknown shot Thomas Stewart and Miss Annie Stewart near Richmond.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]8th - ______ Catron shot _____ Lewis at Somerset; family quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]9th - C. C. Bonte shot Pete Hamilton in Mercer County; quarrel about money matters. Mr. Deering was shot in Allen County.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]11th - Neal stabbed Mrs. Gebhardts at Burk City; she interfered in a quarrel between Neal and her son.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]12th - _______ killed John Russell (colored) at Georgetown; quarrel. Bose Powell killed Henry Royce by stabbing near Richmond. Dick and Alfred Stewart killed Martha Stewart near Richmond.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]14th - William Smith shot Robert Saunders near Richmond; gambling quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]15th - Isaac Durham shot Alex Shipman (colored) at Harrodsburg; trying to arrest. John Redman shot Nat N. Smith near Duck Creek; quarrel about business matters.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]19th - Jason Little killed his wife in Breathitt County.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]21st - Marshal Maddox shot Henry Adams (colored), trying to arrest, at Shelbyville.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]22nd - David Yates (colored) shot Charley Wright (colored), brother-in-law, at Buffalo; quarrel. ____ Newton shot _____ Chafflin at Scottsville, because he ran off with his wife.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]November 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 8th - H. C. McGee shot Jason Metcalf at Cynthiana; political quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]10th - Edward Clark (colored) shot Henry Clark (colored), his brother, at Henderson; accidental.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]11th - Owen Bradley stabbed Lewis Lee (colored) at Lexington; quarrel about money. Taylor Clarke shot James Osborne in Menifee County; old grudge.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]16th - Matt Tuffes killed _____ Hood with an ax near Riverton. Will Bartlett Love killed Thomas Jones in Pendleton County; saloon quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]17th - ____ Berry killed at Flemingsburg.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]18th - Rioters shot John Thompson and George Howard at Mt. Sterling, Kentucky.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]21st - Emmet Snodgrass shot Jim Bethuram at Mt. Vernon.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]22nd - Thomas Parsons shot James Bryant in Spencer County; grudge. Wm. Porter shot Jas. T. Neal at Shelbyville, because he was an important witness in a horse thief case.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]23rd - Joseph James shot _____ Sanford (colored) at Uniontown.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]25th - Frank Turner killed, with a knife, Samuel Todd near Williamstown; brutal murder.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]26th - Gang of outlaws shot Wm. Freeman and Daniel Freeman at Jackson; political quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]27th - Member of the Allen gang shot Judge I. W. Burnett at Jackson, trying to prevent the rescue of Jason Little, a murderer. Mob shot Tom Little at Jackson, Breathitt County troubles.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]December 1878[/SIZE][SIZE=+2] 1st - John Kimbrell killed his wife with a hoe in Estill County, because she wouldn't pick up potatoes.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]3rd - James Tudor stabbed John Waremoth at Richmond; drunken quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]4th - _____ Steffin stabbed Chancey Neil in Trimble County; quarrel about a woman.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]6th - A mob shot Jerry Little and Gambrill on Lost Creek, Breathitt County.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]10th - Susan Randall killed her child at Harrodsburg.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]14th - Harvey McCorn shot John Hall at Kelley's Station; private quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]15th - Goddard killed Goddard, brother, in Robertson County; quarrel.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]16th - John Lillis shot Led Armstrong, boys, at Bagdad; accidentally.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]19th - Jim Craig shot and cut the throat of Overton in Grayson County, for gathering corn that Craig had attached. Charles Campbell cut James Hawkins' throat, from ear to ear, at Nicholasville, because he said the grass-widow Campbell wanted to marry had a husband.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]24th - Evan Vanmetre, in a difficulty at Glendale, received two slashes with a knife in the hands of an antagonist, one reaching from the right shoulder to the left hip; the other laying open the bowels.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]25th - John Hester and Sam Ford killed Lige Short (colored) at Franklin, for threatening Hester's life. Wm. Collins killed Geo. Jones at Sharpsburg; quarrel. In an affray between John Suns and Wilson Miller, while both men were under the influence of liquor, at Maysville, the former had his throat cut. At Shannon, James Chanslor attempted suicide by shooting himself in the head. He was intoxicated at the time. At Mt. Sterling, Joe Wyatt stabbed ____ Gensis just below the first rib, making a dangerous wound. A Negro and a Mr. Williams got into a fight at White Plains, which the Negro was getting the better of, when Williams' son, a boy about 14 years old, came to his father's aid, and putting a pistol to the Negro's head, fired, blowing off the back of his head and killing him instantly.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]26th - John Smith, a Negro man, while drunk, crawled into a barn near Glendale, and when found, was frozen to death. Stewart Myers and the Carson brothers met at Crab Orchard, and after exchanging angry words, drew their pistols and commenced firing at each other. Both sides were reinforced, and some 30 or 40 shots were exchanged, shotguns taking a prominent part. Myers fell, his shoulder literally shot to pieces. Dave Carson was also severely wounded, while a number of others were more or less hurt.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+2]27th - At Elizabethtown, two Negroes, John Wallace and Bob Taylor, got into an altercation, during which Wallace used a pistol and put a ball into Taylor's stomach.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+3]Violent Deaths In Kentucky, 1878[/SIZE]

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[indiucky]

Okay, just watched the documentary. I've got to say that the Canuks were a bunch of social justice warriors who just wanted to pile on what a bunch of yokels the locals were and make money off of it. After all, they don't live in a city and work for the BBC, they live in the hills and work in a coal mine...let's show how stupid they are and how much their life sucks, look they are dirty and maybe hungry (as opposed to not badly dressed and opposed to 50 years ago maybe not too badly off). If I was on they jury I'd have been the one guy saying good shoot. Why aren't the rest of them dead. The film crew is still saying what a bunch of backwards yokels and we did no wrong. They underestimate the ill they do with their lenses.

That's how I saw it....I think eventually they (the filmmakers)saw it that way as well...Like the one Canuck said....

"What Hobart Ison did was wrong but an entire community rallying around their own because they felt slighted and being made fun of? That's poetry, pure Kentucky Mountain poetry and it's beautiful..."

I like what his attorney said...

"I told Ison we could plea temporary insanity but he wouldn't have none of it...He said, "I knew exactly what I was doing and know exactly why I shot that man...I weren't insane at all...."

 

[Thor]

Post #30...it's almost amazing anyone was left.

Apparently, the police could shoot people for speeding; I suppose that cuts down on folks complaining about being detained.

 

[Benp]

This was interesting.
I don't know how someone can kill someone without fearing for their life. Get 10 years and out in 1 year. I just value the human life more than that. The person who died was a husband, father, son, and possibly brother, and his whole existence was worth 1 year in jail? It sounds like he thought he was just above the law and wanted to do what he wanted to do, and in only serving 1 year that's pretty much what happened. The filmmakers should not have been doing what they were doing, but this doesn't justify murder. The town rallying around a murderer doesn't make it right.

 

[indiucky]

This was interesting.
I don't know how someone can kill someone without fearing for their life. Get 10 years and out in 1 year. I just value the human life more than that. The person who died was a husband, father, son, and possibly brother, and his whole existence was worth 1 year in jail? It sounds like he thought he was just above the law and wanted to do what he wanted to do, and in only serving 1 year that's pretty much what happened. The filmmakers should not have been doing what they were doing, but this doesn't justify murder. The town rallying around a murderer doesn't make it right.

As I said at the beginning...This was a complicated situation......It was a different time and Eastern Kentucky had spent the last three years seeing documentary after documentary portraying them in a negative almost paternal light.....It was a slow build up to a bad end....I'll say this, Hugh O'Connor was not like the other ones that had filmed there...It was a perfect storm and is heartbreaking all around.....

There is a line in "Next of Kin" where Patrick Swayze has to talk down one of his people who shot the man dead he caught sleeping with his wife...He agrees to turn himself in and he looks sadly at Patrick Swayze's character and says,

"Hell....Back home Truman I wouldn't be in trouble at all..."

"I know man...I know...But Chicago ain't Eastern Kentucky...."

I am bad about this stuff...If a documentary film maker got killed in the Amazon filming Indians in the Rain Forest I would probably sympathize with the Native's...I am not saying I am right...But I can be a little tribal...

IMHO....

It is a good flick however.....

 

[Benp]

It's definitely good, and I'm glad you mentioned it to us! There is a lot to think about on both sides.

 

[Thor]

The press has come to believe they can invade anyone's space, property, personal information and spread it to make money, clicks, a momentary sound bite and have no responsibility for the outcome.

You can see it in the riots today where every person throwing a trash can at a cop car is covered by 20 cameras and live streamed on networks and social media fueling the flames. In every 'personal horror' story where the press is pounding on doors demanding interviews and access, sticking cameras in the face of investigators and demanding information. Nothing useful, nothing that educates, only profit for the spews network or clicks on the anti-social nets. None of them do anything to stop the horror or riot...or help the victims; they just film it happening for their own benefit.

I've had more than enough of their shtick. About a century past time for some responsibility and outcome to be slapped on them.

 

[Spear Dane]

One set of my grandparents originated from Hoot Owl Holler W.VA. I understand the antipathy of those people towards outsiders coming in. Those folks had been nothing but stigmatized and stereotyped for decades as a result.