What percentage of refugees, in general, are potentially dangerous to Americans or our way of life?
You are missing the point. We have no reasonable obligation to admit potentially dangerous persons. We have no obligation to engage in self-injurious policies. We have no obligation to put the well-being of everyone else on the face of the planet ahead of our own, particularly on our own soil. I fail to understand why some people are insistent upon taking significant risks which come with absolutely no benefit to the United States or its citizens.
In case you are still missing the point, the actual percentage is irrelevant. If there is a realistic risk (which there is) we need to avoid actions which facilitate that risk.
The Jarrell Improved Theology 2.0 most definitly does not contain any Hypocrisy,Weaselism or plain fear...I'm just sayin...
If you want to stop the terrorists from getting into the US, then the question to ask is how to stop them from coming here. With professional forgers, training, and money, they have been able to get inside the US even without the refugee program. For example, those 911 guys didn't come as refugees. So if you abolish the refugee program, you won't stop the terrorists. There are so many other ways for them to infiltrate the US. They'll fly here with an EU passport on a business visa and disappear into the crowd. Or they'll fly to Mexico and walk across the border. Better yet, they can go on a nice hike in the spring down from Canada and maybe visit one of our many beautiful national parks before blowing themselves up somewhere crowded. Our border with Canada is much, much longer than our border with Mexico.
Thinking that stopping the refugees will stop the terrorists is kind of like thinking that banning guns will stop crime. All these governors declaring their state won't accept refugees is just security theater like the TSA.
As Wilson explains: Refugees are identified outside of the U.S. by the United Nations' High Commissioner for Refugees; once the UNHCR has identified and certified them as refugees (these are people who prove they have a "well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to, or owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country"); they then go through a background check through the UNHCR (this often involves Interpol, other types of law enforcement and international security agencies), extensive interviews, doctor check ups, etc.; once they go through all that processing, the UNHCR divides them into groups in accordance with the countries that have agreed to accept those refugees, including the U.S.; the U.S. security checks them again; only if they pass that security check, meaning it is proven they do not pose a threat to this country, are they allowed to come to the U.S. The refugees that make it here are teamed up with a refugee resettlement agency, which helps them get off their feet.
The average processing time for refugee applications could take up to 18 months and no less than one year, but Syrian applications can take way longer because of "security concerns and difficulties in verifying their information," according to CNN.
There, that wasn't too difficult, which media outlets put the number at 70% men?The media puts the numbers of woman and children at 30% of the emigrants. I have not saw a photo with as much as .03% woman and children.Now H. BAMMI wants to up our influx from 16,000 to 75,000...
Seriously?
Do you take medication?
It's easy not to know what reality is when your face is buried in a computer all day scouring for articles to support the Candyland eutopia you think we live in. The reality is that this world is full of people who want anyone who is not like them dead, and many of these "refugees" are those people. What kind of person wouldn't fight to save their homeland? Why would they tuck tail and run? Why do they want to come here? Probably the same type that believes everything they read off the internet and never thinks for themselves. If you guys feel so bad for these "refugees," invite them to your home to stay with you, to interact with your children and sleep in the room next to your spouses. Otherwise STFU and get a clue.
Oh, cut it out. I don't necessarily agree with this simplified list: it's not realistic to think we aren't going to get some problematic folks, especially considering the number of young males and our own employment problems.
However, if we can't discuss both viewpoints, what's the point of having a discussion?
What percentage of refugees, in general, are potentially dangerous to Americans or our way of life?
If this isn't trolling I don't know what trolling is.
So... is this suppose to be reassuring or what??
It's a valid, thought out opposing viewpoint.
When you are on a primarily conservative (well maybe extremely) forum and you purposely post stuff that will not be received well, well that's trolling for a negative reaction. Hence, trolling. JMHO though.
they need to stay and be men and fix their own damn country. But they will come here and the government will give them free money and benefits to fund their jihad with. How ****ed up is that!
There, that wasn't too difficult, which media outlets put the number at 70% men?
http://www.milwaukeejewish.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/syrian_refugee_crisis.jpg
What is that a photo of? What is the context? Why should I believe it is the thing you imply that it is? It's the same with the other side. What is the context of the photos showing primarily able-bodied men? Is that really the makeup of the refugees?
Ideologies aside, reality is what it is. That's the thing we're trying to determine. You asserting your belief and then posting something that seems to agree with your belief doesn't tell me anything except that's what you believe?
Here it is. At least for me.
Believe as you will. That is why we are a great country....basically. Even if i disagree with you I will defend your right to be, well, wrong in my eyes but right in yours.
But, to make those around you (Or attempt to) support your belief's, fund those same belief's, possibly put family and friends in danger doing so is just a serious push for me.
What we are seeing in this is the fear these folks will bring the madness closer to home.
Have you ever been around early 20's males from that part of the world. They are border line nuts if they are not from an educated well to do family. It goes with the region and the life they live.
I share this fear. Why rub dirt in a wound. We have so many issues right here that could be addressed with the funds and manpower this will require. Lets fix them 1st and then look beyond our borders.
I feel empathy for the woman and kids that are caught up in this.
Several thousand young men.....Hell no.
We have no jobs to offer the unskilled.
They will flood an already over burdened system.
Our taxes will take a hit from this to fund this idiocy.
There are so many more reasons to say "NO"
Lets fix our problems. Seriously. There can be absolutely no argument made against this from a rational mind.
What is that a photo of? What is the context? Why should I believe it is the thing you imply that it is? It's the same with the other side. What is the context of the photos showing primarily able-bodied men? Is that really the makeup of the refugees?
Ideologies aside, reality is what it is. That's the thing we're trying to determine. You asserting your belief and then posting something that seems to agree with your belief doesn't tell me anything except that's what you believe?